I second that.

Thrilled too! Can't wait to vote her recall!!! Can we send her to Alaska or Texas?

Your suggestion that a person's right to vote should be taken away because they didn't previously exercise that right is just plain silly.

But, even if we were to allow only people that voted in 2011 to vote in the recall, I imagine the recall would still be successful. Many people who voted for Janice in 2011 have completely soured on her "leadership" and would like a less controversial figure as mayor.

20 percent of the people signing my petition actually voted for Janice Daniels. All of her defenders claim that she was upfront about everything during the campaign? Not true. People did NOT know she was a Tea Party leader, something she did not mention until the first two minutes in office. I can tell you many people felt cheated by that alone. The fact that she has turned out to be a nightmare and to appear like SHE needs a panel of psychologists to explain HER disorders are the things that made people sign the petition in droves!

I'm one of those who didn't bother to vote. I had been buried in running my business, didn't have time to research the candidates and didn't feel informed enough. I was leaning toward Robin Beltramini and then was swayed by the numerous political mailers that came to my home that criticized Beltramini; it made me second-guess. I opted to just not vote at all. When I saw how Janice treated Michelle Hodges and the Troy Chamber that made me take notice. This "business" woman hasn't a clue what she is doing. And she really doesn't possess the "business" experience she professes. I am anything but confused now. Please don't take my informed right to vote away from me or argue that I shouldn't be allowed to vote in November. I have done my research now. I know what I'm doing. I will be casting a vote to Recall her. In my business, it would be taking action to fire her for turning out to be unqualified and not living up to her resume. It's as simple as that.

if in fact we were to put your idea into action then very few people would be allowed to vote in elections. Does this idea extend to primaries, Presidential elections, etc.? I think that people in general have a tendency to believe that their candidate has enough votes and therefore get the opinion, "I don't have to go vote, it's just 1 vote" Well hopefully Troy has learned that if you believe in your candidate, you have to VOTE!!

I agree with you peoplearenuts. I think recall elections should be limited to those who voted the first time around (not all elections, just recalls), then maybe people would have taken seriously the original election and researched and voted. I voted for Robin the first time around, but feel this whole recall thing really is unfair. I'll be voting not to recall her.

Such an idea is down right silly . One can excerise this right or be foolish and not excerise this right . If they then realize their mistake they can correct if given the chance. There is today a group of people in our country who want to ruin our freedom and liberty in personal decisions by restricting them to the standard they believe is best. Well freedom and liberty means often having to see people do folish things . Things I think are foolish but would defend a persons right to do so: not voting home schooling , not voting , not keeping informed on local and national public issues , sending your chiild to private schools , dressing in unmodest ways, wearing too much perfume , wearing to much makeup, wasting electricity on xmas lights. etc etc . See how this idea of my standards being put on others. So lets keep our privacy and freedom by changing this current idea that if it does not agree with my standards make a law . Laws should be made only to protect the whole society from unsafe or dangerous things .

@Mack "I voted for Robin the first time around, but feel this whole recall thing really is unfair. I'll be voting not to recall her."

unfair: Adj. Not fair. Not conforming to approved standards.

A recall is the constitutionally guaranteed procedure for citizens to remove elected officials who they no longer wish to represent them. A recall, is not the method to remove an elected official who is guilty of committing a crime or is guilty of official misconduct. There are other procedures for that type of situation. This recall is anything but unfair. If you review the various comments Mack has posted on the Patch, he has stated multiple times that he didn't vote for Janice Daniels, doesn't approve of the job she has done and wouldn't vote for her in a future election. So why is he so against a recall. If a private business owner hired somebody and later discovered that that person misrepresented their abilities and actually didn't possess the skills to do the job correctly he would fire them. He wouldn't keep that person in his employment and say, "Well I don't like the job she's doing, but I made the mistake in hiring her so I have to live with it." Janice Daniels wants public sector positions to be treated like private sector positions. She's about to get her wish.

Peoplearenuts and Mack's idea that "you need to have voted in the mayoral election last ime to be able to vote in the recall election" seemed at first impression, a horrible idea, like it would be violating a Constitutional right, so I looked it up and found this from www.usconstitution.net: "The Constitution contains many phrases, clauses, and amendments detailing ways people cannot be denied the right to vote. You cannot deny the right to vote because of race or gender. Citizens of Washington DC can vote for President; 18-year-olds can vote; you can vote even if you fail to pay a poll tax.... Note that in all of this, though, the Constitution never explicitly ensures the right to vote". So..it is conceivable that Michigan could legislate such a rule restricting voting in recall elections, but watch out, you're setting the stage for a new Constitiutional amendment protecting the right to vote regardless of previous participation in voting.
Besides, can you imagine the uproar on that first Tuesday in November, when some people would be given certain ballots (which would contain the recall question) and others not?

I did vote in the last mayoral election so would be among the ones allowed to vote in this coming election if Peoplearenuts and Mack had their way. But what I regret is like Chris P, I was too busy in my own life leading up to the election, and thus other than my vote didn't contribute time or money to non-Tea Party candidates. Not so this election. Janice Daniels has shown me the folly of passivity in allowing the ultra-right wing to take control of our city, and by extension, the harmful effects if they take over our county and our district. It is crucial that we get qualified and smart people in office, not those who spout ideology as a substitute for thinking and coming up with constructive solutions.

Jeff, do you think a deceitful recall petition is the “ends justifying the means”?

http://troy.patch.com/blog_posts/election-nullifiers-to-circulate-misleading-petition

If you add together people like Mack who voted for Robin Beltramini and think regular elections and respect for the Constitution are more important than political views to the people who quietly support the good things the mayor has done, she will keep her seat.

Mayor Daniels was attacked from the day of her taking office because she is a conservative woman. To say no one knew this before the election is laughable when she campaigned on conservative principles like opposition to the transit center. All of a sudden people are saying it now: “she has a long history of criticizing the council, Tea Party activist, etc.”

And what’s wrong with the Tea Party? Their big issue is not passing a mountain of debt on to the next generation, something we all should agree with.

Dale:

On your opinion the the petition was deceitful: Do you honestly believe the approximately 8,800 voters who signed the petition were deceived into signing it? I think people knew very well why they were signing.

Do you resepect the constitutional right of citizens to recall? Or do you only value the parts of the constitution you find politically expedient?

I believe some "conservative" people are supporting the recall. It clearly cuts across ideological and political lines.

I believe the issue about the mayors tea party affiliation is that she did not make it plain during the campaign. It was certainly not in anything she mailed to my house. Why do you suppose that is? She also did not make clear she would use the position as mayor to espouse ignorance and intolerance about gay people.

Dale,

Because you continue to say so, and post the link to YOUR blog (!) repeatedly, does not make it true. 8,882 voters in troy think you are wrong. FYI, I respect the constitution and understand it applies to ALL people, not just the ones I like. You have the right to repeat misinformation, and I will not stand in your way. I have the right to correct your misinformation.

In addition, the mountain of debt you refer to is not a city issue. Period. The mayor's office should be concerned with city issues. Period. When you do not have a logical response to someone else's opinion, you bring up issues that do not pertain to this discussion. She was attacked from Day 1 of taking office because that was when she dropped the veil and revealed who she really was. I thank God that people woke up.

She will NOT keep her seat.

Perhaps any lack of bio means she's just a nightmare & doesn't really exist?!
Hopefully by Nov. her "non-existence" as Troy mayor will become a reality.

According to her contact info on zoominfo.com, Janice Daniels works as a mortgage broker at Ameriplus Mortgage Corp on 2050 Livernois Rd, #E in Troy. Their phone number is 248-740-2323 if you wish to confirm this for yourself as I have. We just remortgaged our house and I can assure you we never considered using Ameriplus once we found out that they employ Janice Daniels.

The difference - None of the previous mayors have embarrassed and shamed this city by statements they have made, or continuously demonstrated very poor judgement while in office.

More importantly, once Daniels lied to her constituents (as she has on numerous occasions), she has voided the trust of the people of Troy.

She just made more offensive comments the other day on the public airwaves. She clearly hasn't learned anything on the job and does not seem to be interested in doing so. It has been time enough.

No one succeeded in recalling Schilling, but the attempt was made because she voted to allow Christians AND people of other religions to take part in the National Day of Prayer ceremony at the City Hall. That recall was against her and someone else. It failed. So that argument doesn't wash. The problem with this recall campaign, to JD supporters, is that it has so far succeeded. And it's not only because the opposition is smart, it's because the people of Troy really support the recall. She is that bad.

She was lying for two years running up to taking office and she hasn't stopped since. On the radio two weeks ago she said she told people at a BUSINESS MEETING that doctors could say the so-called "homosexual lifestyle" (which doesn't exist-it's a stereotype) was dangerous. Nope. She told high school kids and a monogamous gay woman at her public office hours that she could bring psychiatrists in to tell the kids that the lifestyle was dangerous. What's the difference, in the true version, the kids were working on a suicide prevention meeting for gay kids. JD's answer? Have psychiatrists tell the kids they are nuts and shove them over the edge. Seriously, she is dangerous.

"excess reserves" are a red herring. If there were excess reserves, would not Tietz and Henderson voted with Daniels to open the library 7 days a week when the vote first came up around January? They didn't. If there were "excess reserves" would not Daniels have brought the issue of opening the library 7 days a week come up again during the review of the budget? The council didn't because there is no "excess reserve". The city management, under Szerlag, was conservative and realistic. Projections for future revenue under existing millage rates and negotiated payroll reductions still show the city needs to be careful or it will be in a deficit in 2017. If this were not true, would Tietz and Henderson have approved the budget? However, if you reallyt want to recall the council members who remain from the previous council, Nicholas Cherasaro had three approved recall petitions for Slater, McGinnis and Fleming you could have signed, if he was serious about following through.

Daniels should have been ready to serve without the mistakes she made and continues to make before she decided to run for mayor.