Hate the sin, love the sinner. Janice Daniel's brief FB comment about the homosexual lifestyle was made long before she became Mayor. A small minority inappropriately jumped on it for their selfish purposes, and with a megaphone has tried to embarrass and flog the community and the Mayor for their cause. There is nothing she can say or do to get them to move on. It serves their selfish agenda and the good of Troy be damned. It is not extremist to uphold the Michigan Constitution and its Marriage Amendment that was approved by 59% of the voters. The voters will see through this and vote NO on the recall.

The recall is not about her fb statement. It is about her antigay false statements to high school students, which she has repeated over and over. It not about gay marriage or the Michigan constitution either. It is not extremeists to stand up against intolerance. 8,800 people are not a small minority.

It is about disrespecting the election process and the voters of Troy. Of the recall petition the signers, 8,894 signatures were certified. Of these, 4,217 (47%) voted in Nov 2011, 4,677 (53%) did not vote. Those who failed to vote have the audacity to demand another vote. This is at its base, about dirty politics. Please vote NO on the recall on November 6. Don't let procrastinators smear the Mayor and steal the Mayor's seat.

You are the one disrespecting the process, citizens exercising their constitutional right to recall an inept public official.

Citizens don't vacate their rights to vote, even if you don't like how they will vote: you would disenfranchise voters? Nice respect for the election process.

Dear Daffy (the name is your conclusion, not mine). I would respect the Voter's mandate and give the elected officials some time to settle into their jobs and become effective. The sour grapes poor losers started harassing Mayor Daniels before she was even sworn in. Despite the disrespect and constant badgering Mayor Janice Daniels has been the lady and conducted the meetings and her conduct with exemplary decorum and propriety. It reminds me of the knee-jerk left wing politics that tried to label Ronald Reagan a neanderthal and called him almost every name possible. The recall conduct of some of the advocates has been rude, nasty, juvenile. One even had to be removed by the police for trying to harass volunteers reviewing the recall petitions. This is what Occupy and Acorn and union boss politics look like. Democracy by intimidation. That won't fly in Troy as we will see with a resounding NO vote on the recall.

Then you ought to respect the voters mandate for the recall, otherwise you are picking and choosing hypocritically.

The mayor was not a lady when she gave false antigay information to high school kids and repeated them on the radio. She has conducted meeting with so little propriety that slander occurred at the last council meeting.

The recall is based on facts: what she has said and done as mayor. It is curious that you are chiding anyone with all the irrational name calling your posts are filled with. and who cares about all the completely unrelated Fox News talking points you throw in. They are meaningless and have nothing to do with the recall, because the recall is supported across the political spectrum.

The voters see through this nonsense and I am confident they will support the recall.

We shall see, Daffy. If enemies had not elevated an old FB posting it would have never entered the discussion. That was hateful misuse to propagate a particular political agenda. That you do not agree with established statistics on the gay issue is being in denial. In any event, even traditional marriage folks and those who remain single for a variety of reasons, would not wish harm upon those choosing a different lifestyle. We donate millions each year to aids and other VD research, and are taxed billions each year to protect people from their promiscuous lifestyle. And unfortunately tens of thousands of children are murdered each year through abortion from those who procreate but do not honor the offspring they created. The protagonists raised and perpetuate the issue, and went out of the community to raise money for their recall campaign from gay sources. We know what this is about.

If the mayor had dealt with the old Facebook posting like a reasonable person, this would never have elevated the issue. She did nothing of the kind.

What established statistics are you talking about? Please give your sources for your bigoted claims. I am familar with the real science. There is jo such thng as a gay "lifestyle". Being gay does not equal being promiscuous. That is an ignorant misconception. Your kooky ramblings about abortion that have nothing to do with the issue at hand aside, I am not gay and they raised money from me. I just think people like her, and you, who spread ignorance about gay people should be confronted and told they are wrong. Because you are wrong. And this kind of ignorance does real damage to people who don't deserve it.

Tell me again what a good Christian you are.

The number of abortions obtained by gay males is incredibly low, hovering around 0.0%.

Jeff S.:

Ha!

Jeff S., the number of HIV/Aids/VD among gay males happens to be pretty high; Among long term monogamous married couples almost nil.

@U.R.A. Fool

You insinuate that HIV/AIDS is primarily a "gay" problem, but that is not true. It is a risky behavior problem (for gays and straights). From the CDC, "Heterosexuals accounted for 27% of estimated new HIV infections [in the US] in 2009 and 28% of people living [in the US] with HIV infection in 2008." While gay men accounted for "49% of people living [in the US] with HIV infection in 2008". http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/PDF/HIV_at_a_glance.pdf

We know risky behavior is what puts people at a higher risk of contracting STDs, not their sexual orientation. While it is true that gay men are disproportionately affected by HIV in the US, it is also true that gay women are among the least affected groups. Believe it or not, straight people can get HIV like anyone else. HIV is not a "gay man's disease" and actually affects a greater number of heterosexuals worldwide than homosexuals. Africa suffers from a massive epidemic and the majority of the people are straight. ( http://www.avert.org/women-hiv-aids.htm#contentTable0 ). I'd suspect having little or no access to protection is how it spread to so many.

Anyone, gay or straight, who lives a monogamous lifestyle is far less likely to contract HIV/AIDS than someone who leads a promiscuous lifestyle. (These are the appropriate uses of the word "lifestyle").

Lions and Rinos oh no! Vote YES on November 6th!

Dale, I would not have written this, had she not used this imagery, in which she implies that she is the righteous victim of the evil denizens of city hall. Do you really think that everyone at City Hall is evil? Do you really believe that she is God's representative standing in the gap to protect us from evil?

Dale, do you really believe that mailing is appropriate for the Mayor of a diverse community like Troy?

Do you really believe it is her place to defend religious and social stances in that manner from a NON-PARTISAN position?

Do you really believe it's ok for her to alienate great numbers of her constituency by holding herself up as righteous and above reproach while standing in judgement of those who share different beliefs, religions, creeds, races and cultures?

In other words, do you REALLY want to go on record in defense of this latest atrocity?

False information, such as what she is continuing to spread about gay people is not an opinion.

Citing the AFA as a source about being gay is very clear evidence of bigotry. Sorry Dale that is a fact. They are an antigay hate group and she is using them for backup.

Toby, seems your rash and immature conduct has done much to fuel the flames. The lions are not the government workers, but your small band of hate mongers. Get over it. You lost. Lets patch Troy back together instead of this extreme partisan bickering. Support the Mayor and make room in Troy for all opinions, even those of conservatives and tea party members. They support the Troy establishment with their tax dollars, too.

8,800 people signed the petition, not a small group.

Daffy writes: "Citing the AFA as a source about being gay is very clear evidence of bigotry. Sorry Dale that is a fact. They are an antigay hate group and she is using them for backup."

59% of the people in Michigan amended the constitution to put in a marriage amendment co-authored by the head of American Family Association. That is hardly fact that they are a bigoted hate group. AFA's annual banquet was in Troy last year, as I recall. I do not believe they have a problem with you or this community. Your myopic hatred of anyone straight seems to cloud your perspective. Knock the chip off your shoulder and lets get on with being a great city again.

Well, well, well. If I hate anyone straight then I would hate myself and my wife. Nice try at gay bashing, but you picked the wrong guy. I don't care who authored what or where they had their party, the AFA has a very long well documented history of spreading antigay hatred using false information. That is why they are a hate group.

Having an antigay mayor who spreads ignorance in this way is bad for the city. That's why she should be recalled.

I contend that Janice created the environment she now finds herself in. She sets the stage by viciously attacking constituents, staff, and anyone who disagreed with her views. The things said about her can be proven, Dale, but you seem to be struck blind whenever facts are documented about your beloved Janice. VOTE YES on November 6. Page 2, top of column 3.

What I object to is her putting herself forward as someone we should aspire to be. She wants a marriage law, however she unlike me, has been married more than once. I would not advise people how to marry and I have a successful 40 + year marriage. I am not trained in that area and would not place myself above others who are well trained. Julie McGee

I didn't say that no one was attacking her. What I said, is that she is not the righteous victim being attacked by the evil denizens of city hall (city employees) and their "extremist" allies.

Yes, if she is recalled, we'll have to figure out how the council will work, but our charter provides for that eventuality. We'll get by.

Our elected representatives will appoint who replaces her until the next election when we choose directly.

I wonder if the good pastor's Church 501(c)(3) status is put in jeopardy by his partisan activities, as indeed the recall is all about Democrat politics? Been here less about four years, knows everything and presumes to tell us all that to think and how to vote. He is shocked by the analogy, while acting the part of the lion. There is a name for that. Out of respect for the office he holds, it is not used here.

The recall is not just supported by Democrats.

Mr. Cornwall (for a person advocating gay marriage contrary to the State constitution - is that name real, or a joke?) needs to be a bit more accurate. Mayor Daniels has supported City employees but as any good leader, has the obligation to represent the taxpayers and citizens of Troy in offering corrections where appropriate. If a city manager or any other employee withholds or misrepresents information vital to conduct of city business, of course it needs to be corrected. That is not an attack. And yes, a small cadre of malcontents have been relentless in bringing demurral and shame to the city in their partisan inability to respect the voters and their decisions. They will be rejected with a solid NO vote on the recall.

You are a petty small person to make fun of someones name. how childish.

A good leader does not make a baseless tirade publicly against employees. That is what the mayor did. The mayors attack was completely debunked point by point with footnotes. L. Brook Patterson came to his defense.

You still insist 8,800 people who signed the petition is a small cadre? Every time you post this sort of ignorant blather you demonstrate who the fool is. Please continue, it can only be good for the recall campaign as you show how unreasonable you are.

Of course Jennifer, God is her campaign manager! (Her words, not mine. Maniacal.)

You hit the nail on the head Ann. As a Christian I do find the mailing odd and slightly offensive. She gives the rest of us a bad name.

What would Jesus do? He would vote YES to recall Janice Daniels.

Whatever you do for the least of my brethren, you do for me. This is also in the bible. The people who misuse the bible for their gain tend to leave the most important parts out.

If an employer needs to correct an employee is that an attack? I think not. If an appointee is not responsive and responsible to the officials elected by We The People, calling them out is fair game. It is good and prudent management. Any money you take from the Feds first has to be taxed, Government on any level has no money until they take it from us. They take out half and return the balance with strings attached. Usually the strings require never ending constant local expenditures. If it is not truly needed (60 passengers a day?) it seems prudent to give this some real serious thought. I mean, this isn't a candy store but if it were, those demanding more spending would get a belly ache.

Her 'correction' was proven to be baseless and out of line. The former city manager made an extremely detailed point-by-point refutation of the entire tirade.

I'm glads you agree holding officials responsible is "fair game". That is what the recall is doing.

The pot is calling the kettle black. The viscous and outrageous conduct of a small, shrill, pack of self serving Democrats and far left union bosses, nipping at heels like a bunch of rabid rottweilers, have the audacity to critique almost every breath and step of the duly elected Mayor of our City. Irrelevant? Yes, YOUR conduct is off target in critiquing a FB post long before she became Mayor. What does that have to do with anything? Queer? That is what many homosexuals call themselves. What DO you want to be called? Back off and give her a chance to do her job, Your difisiveness is hurting the city.

The recall is not about the fb comment. It is about her actions as mayor. Such as spouting false antigay information to high school students and repeating them on local radio. Her latest mailing supports these comments by citing a radical antigay hate group. These among other behaviors are unacceptable to a great many Troy citizens from across the political spectrum. Get your facts straight before you start slinging stones, otherwise you are just a shrill hypocrite.

Looking in the mirror, Coyote?

Mike,
Your message is clear and should be a concern to all Troy voters. Present this concern to Council tonight (7:30) and place this on the public record.

Not the city employees, Maureen. It appears to be a small special interest group who cannot accept their rejection by the voters of Troy last November. They still want to control, or destroy, the city. It is utterly disgraceful.

Remeber when I said 8,800 people who signed the recall petition is not a small group? It's still not a small group.

Mayor Daniels is entitled to state her personal opinion. She done nothing to hurt the city and, in fact, has been steady at the wheel. Troy has begun to lead the economic recovery in Michigan. The new jobs for our city is very impressive. City union folks attacking her should understand Troy business recovery means job security for City workers. Myopic and narrow minded special interests should be soundly rejected on November 6. Vote NO on the recall.

Nothing to hurt the city? She has made Troy a national embarassmet with her awful behavior.

You do not speak for God. Your interpretation of the bible is not the only one. You say he shouldn't be critical of a fellow Christian? What are you doing?

Bigotry describes the behavior of the mayor who persistently spread antigay nonsense.

The mailing being discussed came from No Troy Recall, and the street address listed for this PAC on the "Michigan Department of State: Statement of Oranization Form for Independent and Political Committees (PAC'S)" is the Mayor's home address. So yes, this came from Mayor Daniels. What's insulting is that you are trying to persuade people into believing that her hands are clean in this. I'm also curious how you know that "half of the signers of the infamous petitions did not even bother to vote." Did you verify the voting record of each of the 8300+ signatures?

As far as your personal attacks on Pastor Cornwall, you really should be ashamed of yourself. I don't think the Pastor has a "proclivity towards a lifestyle that is currently not legal in Michigan", but rather does not believe perpetuating hate against anyone. Also, it is not illegal to be gay, only for gays to marry, which I suspect will change soon. I submit that you are the "so-called Christian" here. The Pastor spoke out against hate and intolerance, just as Jesus did, and you publicly condemn him for that. I don't know what lessons you and the Mayor were taught, but I was taught that we are all children of God and that we should love our neighbor, regardless of their transgressions. I did not learn that I should slur people, appeal to fear & hate, and spread lies that were debunked years ago.

Thank you for the definition of "bigot", couldn't describe Mayor Daniels any better.

Quite simply, if Janice has no responsibility for the mailer, why hasn't she denounced it???

Chuck, you're right -- Daniel was accused of praying to a god other than the king for 30 days rather than to the idol itself. It happens on occasion. But the point is -- the analogy between the mayor as righteous victim and city hall (employees) being the evil ones is still at the center of this.

Mr. Cornwall perpetuates an erroneous tale that Mayor Daniels is pitted against the City employees. She has stated several time that most of them are providing great services to the City. She has praised the police and fire service, applauded the recognition of the Sanitary department, thanked the interim City Manager, openly welcomed the new City manager, etc., etc., etc. To keep perpetuating a false impression is folly and unfair. The tremendous growth in jobs and development, huge increases in building permits, increases in property value all point to the fact that Troy is leading Michigan's recovery. Mayor Daniels deserves some of the credit for that

Mr. Cornwall did not make up her campaign literature. She says herself she is being attacked by the lions of city hall. It is right there in the mailer. Are you saying she didn't say what she said?

"Users may also not post anything that "is inaccurate, false or misleading in any way."

Has anybody made Mr. Murrish aware of this stipulation?

Glenn, what has Dale Murrish said that would be considered "inaccurate, false or misleading in any way?" I do not see anything wrong with giving an opinion and telling people they can have their own.

I could write a book, but try this one on: Jewish people disobey or ignore the bible's teachings.

Wait, you don't interpret City Hall as the enemy in the image? The image bears the words "City Hall" above the lions side and then "Mayor Daniels in the Lions Den" below Daniel.

Certainly, there are some in City Hall that do not like her, but I think the main opposition is from the previous establishment and the people that vehemently supported them.

Recalls are not attempted as often as they would if this one is passed. This recall is not just a regular recall, it is a recall based on prejudices, which means that now everyone can recall their mayor just because they do not like them. This is clearly dangerous. It was created to get evil people out of office, but it is so abused now that we can get even good and descent people out.

This is our current situation: what started as a small group spread their deceitful message to a big group, and they have been pounding an innocent new mayor with anything they can say to try to get her out. These people, who lost the previous election are just bitter and, as everyone knows, bitterness spreads far quicker than truth.

That is a mischaracterization. What is deceitful? Her own words? I have listened to the tapes and she is anything but innocent. The recall is not based on prejudices, it is based on the mayors actions as mayor.

Spreading lies about a group of marginalized people is anything but good and decent.

The fact is 8,800 people have spoke loudly to say her conduct as mayor is unacceptable, as is their constitutional right. There is an extremely high bar to get a recall on the ballot, which is why they are so rare. One succeeding does not mean others are likely. You are just fear mongering based on no evidence.

Daffy, I believe I am not "fearmongering", and here is why. There are 8,800 people that signed the petition. Most of those signiatures were gathered by ten people. Which tells me one thing: this started small and the driving force and teeth behind this recall is still that small group. I do not disagree the constitutionality of it, but the timing and situation we have is not one worthy of a recall. Recalls are there to get people who have done terrible things (embezzleing money, infidelity, lying to the public) out of office. Our current mayor is guiltfree there. If you don't like her, wait, (like everyone else since our country's foundings) and try to take her out in the next election. But having a recall only causes division in the city, and sets a dangerous precedent.

However many people collected signatures (not sure how you know who collected which signatures) an enormous number of people support the recall or else they wouldn't have signed. That is not a small cadre.

You are absolutely wrong about recalls. There is another procedure for criminal behavior called removal. Recalls can be for ANY reason but only have any chance of succeeding if there is massive support to get them on the ballot. In this case there a huge number of peole believe the mayor has done such a bad job that she should be removed. If one recall succeeds it does not make any other more likely.

There were nearly a 100 signature gatherers, I believe. I think I was in 25th place for total number of signatures collected with approx. 160?? or so of the total gathered.

And my point is that while it is constitutionally acceptable to recall for "ANY" reason, it has not been done very much until recent times and it always causes division and strife. This wasteful (recalls waste taxpayer money) recall is not good for our city.

Silent,

You can research the numbers, but recall attempts are fairly numerous in Michigan, dozens or more each year, for all sorts of reasons. Some make it on the ballot, but you'll find that in fact most are ultimately unsuccessful. So your concern is actually no big deal - recalls have been used a fair amount before this one and will continue after this one. And in Michigan, citizen recalls cannot be used to remove officers for criminal or other judicial reasons.

Nearly a hundred or slightly over. I'd say that's a pretty overwhelming number given the typical rate of volunteerism in any community group with which I've been associated.

The hours weren't that long. People lined up when they heard where we would be. They came to us!

And you think that is a good thing... So, bypassing the established laws through the recall loophole will do our country good. Mhm. Well unfortunately there are still people that will fight for the good of our country. Guilting masses of people into believing an elected official is evil and getting their signiature to prove it is not patriotic.

@The Silent Majority

Recalls are part of the established laws; so there is no bypassing, only utilizing of the laws.

MI Recall Proceedures: “Laws shall be enacted to provide for the recall of all elective officers except judges of courts of record upon petition of electors equal in number to 25 percent of the number of persons voting in the last preceding election for the office of governor in the electoral district of the officer sought to be recalled. The sufficiency of any statement of reasons or grounds procedurally required shall be a political rather than a judicial question.”

You are correct, there are still people that will fight for the good of our country/city and those people organized the recall effort. No one was guilted into giving their signature. They only had to listen to what the Mayor said (from her own mouth) and watch her actions and decide for themselves if she was wrong or not. Apparently, 8800+ people disapprove of her performance. Now, attempting to guilt people into not exercising their legal rights, that is what is not patriotic. Those people who believe the government (the Mayor) is accountable for their words/actions/performance, and have decided to place the job back on the ballot, those people are the example of citizens holding government accountable.

Here! Here!

@ Justme

First off, recalls are not for criminal activity. In fact, the Michigan Constitution specifically prohibits recall for "judicial" reasons, and specifies they must be for "political" reasons. There are other procedures for criminal activity in the charter (removal).

Also, nothing on the petition is about her Facebook comment.

She has every right to say whatever she wants. It is the citizens' right to hold elected officials accountable for their words and actions.

People have different reasons for supporting the recall. For me, the main reason is that during her office hours she spoke false antigay rhetoric to high school kids. She repeated them on the radio. She mailed them to my house. False rhetoric like she has spouted has the effect of reinforcing false sterotypes and is used to justify unfair treatment of many kinds. It also is hostile to gay people. I'm not gay, but I don't want my city to be seen as hostile to anyone.

Whatever anyone may think about gay people, it is wrong for our mayor to spread false information about a group of socially marginalized people. Gay people live and work in Troy, kids in Troy have gay parents, there are gay business owners, perspective homebuyers are gay. The mayor is acting inappropriately by making any of these people feel unwelcome.

That's the main reason for me as to "Why Recall?"

Blah blah blah, Daffy. A broken record. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Mayor Daniels has been good for the City of Troy and the increased business activities and jobs clearly show. You are offended by one remark and a difference of opinion? Get over it or move to Ferndale. The rest of us have a good thing going here. Lets keep it going, and keep Mayor Daniels by voting NO!

It's a character issue for me. Watching city council meetings this past year has shown me what service as Mayor or city council member means. It involves level-headedness, fairness, common sense and often compromise, especially when there are multi-faceted issues, and competing interests which are at odds with each other. I am thinking of not only the prominent issues of the Transit Center and the budget, but also tax abatements to encourage business growth and resident complaint issues like the IB academy traffic problems and the future Big Beaver/Alpine plaza. These are issues that deserve serious consideration and there are not cut and dried answers for them found in the Constitution or in a political ideology (continued)....
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Mayor Daniels in her 1 year term so far has shaken my confidence in her ability to handle the role to which she was elected, i.e., level-headedness, fairness, common sense, and compromise are not adjectives which could be applied to her performance, instead I see plenty of posturing, ego, an unfortunate tendency to grab onto the media spotlight, and to create controversy. As far as I can see she uses hot-button divisive social issues to defend/promote herself. We do not need a “hyperbolic”, “edgy” (Mayor Daniel’s description of herself) and out-there person in this mundane and unglamorous but vitally important job. I had been hoping that she would at least change her outward style but her latest lurid 4-page flyer shows me that she has not.
Anyway, vote as you will. I know how I will vote

How about honesty, integrity, and competence.

Blah, blah, blah? Exactly the kind of intelligent discourse I have come to expect from you. Sorry to shake your little world with facts and reasonableness.

It most certainly was not one comment, it was numerous comments, and they keep coming. The city of Troy should not have tolerate this nonsense for another 3 years.

What business activities and which jobs? How is the mayor responsible for them? Please share any facts if you have them, or are you just making stuff again?

My family is not going anywhere. Sorry to disappoint you.

Her comment on gay people to highschool kids was the one where she said being homosexual is dangerous. Right? Did she make a mistake or am I missing something. Since when was being gay healthy? AIDS anyone?

Being gay is not inherently dangerous. Promiscuous unprotected sexual behavior is dangerous and increases the risk for all sorts of bad things. Being promiscuous and having unsafe sex does not equal being gay. Straight people engage in those behaviors as well. AIDS is also not a gay disease. A huge % of new infections in the US are hetero, and worldwide the vast majority of people with AIDS are hetero.

At any rate she has no business discussing such things with kids. She is not qualified and discussing health issues with high schoolers are no business of the mayors office.

Um, she was in a group of two teens and two adults. Also since when has being a mare not allowed you to express an idea or belief. My point is that being gay is more dangerous than being hetero. Also... it is perfectly christian of her to be anti-gay and christian at the same time. Read romans 1. Also, the founders made anti-gay comments significantly worse than hers. Are they bigots now? Also, one last request. If you disagree with her policies(which is fine, I could care less if you disagree) at least acknowledge her courage, and her willingness to stand for something she believes in. She has not backed down when a outspoken minority has opposed her and attacked her every word. Anywhere else this is heroic perserverence, here it is a stupid politician being a bigot. I appreciate the opposition for the fact that they challeng Ideas, but please akcnowledge some of the good your opponent has done. Thanks

@JustMe

You keep saying that "being gay is more dangerous than being hetero" and that is just not true. What facts are you basing that on? If you say, "hello, AIDS", then you're ignorant to the fact that "heteros" account for the majority of infections worldwide. HIV/AIDS is indiscriminate to sexual orientation and is the result of risky behavior (unprotected sex, sharing needles, etc.), period.

I'm unaware of the Founders "anti-gay comments". Do you have examples? The Founders were not perfect people and very well could have been bigots. You realize they were also racist and owned slaves, right? They determined that slaves were only worth 3/5 of a person, until the Civil War and the 13th Amendment (Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Madison and many others owned slaves).

As far as the Mayor goes, no, I don't respect her for clinging to her bigoted views and injecting them into the public. If she wants to be a bigot in her personal life, that's her business, but she has presented these ideas in office (the same ones you are pushing here) and every respected medical expert disagrees with both of you. It's one thing to cling to a policy or economic idea, it's quite another to slander and demonize a group with falsehoods and stand by that.

I wish I could give her credit for one good thing she's done, but I can't think of one. Maybe her "Mayor for a Day" contest with the kids, but that doesn't help the city.

Um...It is in no way her business to express an opinion on the topic. No matter what her opinion. It can alienate and divide people. As she has done. It is not her job to do that.

Being gay is not more dangerous than being hetero. What are you talking about?

I couldn't possibly care less about your absurd position regarding the righteousness of being anti gay. Your biblical interpretations are meaningless. My opinion is being a good person means you aren't anti anyone. A lot of people think being antigay is profoundly unchristian.

The founders, some of whom owned slaves? Yes they were bigots. It was a different time then. Our society has progressed a little since, for some people.

What you call 'courage' I call bullheaded stubbornness, and a refusal to admit wrong in the face of ridiculously inappropriate behavior. I don't think the national media has seen her actions as heroic perseverence. Where are you getting that?

I don't see the 8,800 people who signed the recall petition as an outspoken minority.

@JustMe

I'll also answer your other questions:
1. Why would you recall her? For her gay comment?
Yes, as one of the reasons. We all have the freedom of speech, where the government cannot punish us for our speech, but we are also accountable for that speech. As an elected official, she is pushing damaging misinformation and is being held accountable by those she governs.
2. Why would you recall a Mayor over political opinion? (like the transit center)
Per the MI State Constitution, Recalls are used to remove elected officials for poor political decisions, not criminal behavior. So yes, I'd support recalling her for the way she handled the transit center discussions (using racism, bigotry, & fear) in addition to baseless fiscal arguments.
3. For keeping the library open longer?
She moved the closed day from Sat to Fri, which keeps the library open the same amount of time and costs the city an additional $35,000/yr. (http://troy.patch.com/articles/troy-public-library-to-offer-saturday-hours-will-cease-friday-operations)

She really has done nothing positive for the City of Troy. If you can name one good thing (that's true) then I might revise that statement.

The US Constitution does not allow for recalls, but the MI Constitution does, as long as it is based on political reasons, not judicial reasons. She has committed no crimes, which is why people have gone the recall route, otherwise she would be prosecuted like another recent Mayor of Detroit.

To be sure, it has been easy to see who she is, and what she stands for...sorry, I just don't like the view. I do see she has certain personal qualities to be valued. One is her steadfast, albeit misplaced, loyalty, to the ulta-right wing Tea Party, (which I think is bad for our city, YMMV) and to her friend Paul Smith (who has problems of his own as Sterling Heights council member). continued,

However whatever her sterling qualities I don't think it makes for good governance.
She's not a good working representative of the conservative cause. What good does her voting do if it is always against the majority? A true leader would be pragmatic and work for compromise. When you're between a rock and a hard place with opposing sides you need to come up with a common sense solution that gets SOME consensus all around. That's good governance, not "my way or the highway" attitude. Take the transit center, we're still getting it..but what bitterness sown by her grandstanding position paper. Yes, she got to vent, but at what cost. Maturity involves looking three steps ahead and looking at consequences. And governance is not war, but building bridges. I also don't care for the "Janice Daniels will never vote for taxes or tax increases". To me that smacks of politicking. I might want a tax increase if it means maintaining my No.1 priority as a resident, safety, not a decimated police force in the interests of a penny pinching, grandstanding Mayor & city council. It is troubling that she was the only NO vote on the current budget which had a nominal increase (pass through from Tringali) on refuse collection.

You clearly missed the latest budget sessions, then, if this is how you see things. Without an increase in revenue, that "huge" fund balance will be depleted in five years. Revenue can come from a rise in property values...it may well happen. But if the cuts achieved by the previous administration had not occurred, we'd be in even WORSE shape.

As to the comment about "low and behold they find a slug of cash," again, reality shows that to be a rather misinformed statement. Anyone paying attention KNEW there would be some cost savings realized from some early retirements. What was unknown until that process concluded was how much...and the result was NOT enough to fund a library ongoing through the years.

Vote YES to stop this type of inaccurate spin.This new sheriff has shown she is unable to understand and manage a city like Troy -- said so herself. She finds the budget "overwhelming," and she complained she didn't have enough time to understand it. Umm...well, time to step down, Mayor.

I am puzzled, if there was "a slug of cash hidden away" why didn't Mayor Daniels lead the charge on giving us a refund of taxes?
Also, I may be mistaken but aren't the city's books audited by an independent accounting firm periodically? And with the city's checkbook online (accomplished just before the start of Daniels's tenure) wouldn't it be even more difficult to hide/embezzle/misuse funds?
One more thing, that "huge fund balance" is what is enabling the city to have a balanced 5 year budget, no? Meanwhile it's important to encourage new businesses to come and occupy our vacant commercial buildings, and current businesses stay to rebuild our tax base...as well as keeping up our fine city services so that Troy remains an attractive location for people to move to. I honestly think Troy is on the right track for economic recovery, I just don't want a loose cannon possibly gumming up the works.

The irony of a person with the screen name U. R. A. Fool crying, "judge not, lest ye be judged" is just too precious. Janice Daniels could have made this all go away months ago by saying, "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. It won't happen again." and then kept her mouth shut afterwards. But she put herself in a hole and just kept digging. Now, we will make it all go away by recalling her this November. Vote YES to Recall Mayor Daniels.