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Jury Still Deliberating in Rifle-Carrying Troy Teen's Trial

Sean Combs, 18, is charged with disturbing the peace and brandishing a firearm after he was stopped by Birmingham Police while openly carrying his loaded rifle downtown.

After two hours of deliberation Wednesday afternoon, the seven-member jury was unable to reach a verdict on the charges facing Sean Combs, the Troy 18-year-old charged with disturbing the peace and brandishing a firearm after an April 13 incident in downtown Birmingham.

The jury is set to return to Judge Marc Barron's courtroom at the 48th District Court Thursday morning to continue deliberating.

The jury, however, did reach a verdict on the charge of brandishing a firearm, though Barron said the verdict won't be revealed until the jury reaches a decision on all charges.

A third charge of obstructing an officer, meanwhile, was dismissed by Barron Wednesday due to lack of evidence.

Combs was , where he was found walking with a loaded M1 Garand rifle slung over his shoulder. Combs and his girlfriend, who witnessed Combs' arrest, have maintained since his arrest that Combs was .

Combs' trial began Wednesday morning with a passionate argument from prosecutor Mary Kucharek of Beier Howlett, P.C., who argued Combs brandished his weapon by displaying it in an ostentatious manner while causing a scene when confronted by Birmingham Police.

Combs’ lawyer, James Makowski, disagreed, saying Combs was well within his constitutional right to carry his rifle openly, which is not considered brandishing. He added that both Combs and Lia Grabowski, Combs’ girlfriend and a witness in his trial, maintain Combs never raised his voice while speaking with Birmingham officers.

During Wednesday's trial, the two responding Birmingham police officers and a Birmingham police lieutenant testified that Combs appeared to be too young to legally carry a firearm, which was the initial reason for stopping Combs as he walked with Grabowski.

"I was concerned," Officer Rebecca Springer said. "I didn't know if he was trying to show off or if he was going to commit a crime."

Combs, who said he openly carried his rifle that day as a form of self expression and to exercise his Second Amendement rights, confirmed he refused to present his identification to officers, saying Michigan law didn't require him to present his ID in order to openly carry.

"He verbally said he was 18," Lt. Michael Albrecht said, adding that he asked Combs for his license twice after arriving on the scene. "I informed him that if he gave his ID, I would just cite him for disorderly conduct."

The officers testified that Combs raised his voice and drew a crowd of up to 15 onlookers as he spoke with officers. Combs was then handcuffed and arrested as he was pulling his drivers license from his wallet, according to testimony from both Albrecht and Combs.

The case has caused an uproar in the open carry community, which has rallied around Combs to show its support. Open carry advocates, many of whom learned about Combs' case on opencarry.org, have gathered as a group in Birmingham's Shain Park twice now — and — while openly carrying rifles and pistols in support of Combs.

Combs' trial is set to resume at 9 a.m. Thursday.

Shirley July 12, 2012 at 04:54 pm
I pray this does not set a precedence for other teens to carry loaded guns in town. Again 18 is to young if society feels they are to young to drink.
Ron Dwyer July 12, 2012 at 04:56 pm
Not Guilty as for the reasons stated above. Do I suggest others do this? No. The fact is the 18 year old man acted with in the laws of the constitution. Did he show respect and manners for others by walking around the streets with a gun? No, but that is not against the law.
Kenneth Herman July 12, 2012 at 04:59 pm
cookiepro2, you are saying it is ok for the police to ignore the Constitutional rights of an American to discourage him!?!?!?!? And then you go on to say he should have been tried in the court of public opinion!?!?!? He is more than welcome as is every law abiding open carrier in my city. If you don't want to be lectured on the Constitution then don't tell other people their rights don't matter!!! Or get the heck out of the country!
Kenneth Herman July 12, 2012 at 05:05 pm
But 18 is just fine to die for their country, right?
cookiepro2 July 12, 2012 at 05:05 pm
Just the reply I would have expected. Anyone who brings up another side to the story should get out of the country,
What about those people in Arizonia who are having their 4th amendment rights trampled upon? Will you speak for them too, or only for youth showing off?
Mitch July 12, 2012 at 05:11 pm
Yeah look at what happened in Columbine, another "gun free zone". Other call it a "Kill Zone" some call it "rimianal Enterprise Zone"
Shirley July 12, 2012 at 05:18 pm
I have a problem with the drinking age and going to war. We all know that at 18 in the military they make an exception to alcohol even supply it at times. So many inconsidencies within the laws. if you are considered an adult at 18 then you should have all the rights not some because they think your brain is still not developed to make appropriate decisions. some people minds are never developed.
cookiepro2 July 12, 2012 at 05:27 pm
Mitch,
Are you really suggesting high schools should not be "gun free zones"? That is, all students should be gun-equipped to protect themselves? Would have to lower the open-carry allowable age to 14. I think police officiers assigned to HSs do carry guns but we don't have them anymore due to people not wanting to pay taxes.
Mitch July 12, 2012 at 05:31 pm
Your problem with this Shirley is your ignorance. You just do not seem to see that Con's are not going to open carry a rifle or handgun. Those of us that do open carry, are attracting your attention for the only reason is to demonstrate that reasonable people can responsibly carry a firearm and not hurt anyone and are ready to stand up to a bully. That does seem like the "in thing" to do these day's
GambitofTroy July 12, 2012 at 05:38 pm
Jury finds Combs INNOCENT! of course they did - he did nothing wrong!
Jeff B. July 12, 2012 at 05:45 pm
Not guilty on all counts!!!
Mitch July 12, 2012 at 05:54 pm
News flash cookie in Michigan, MCL750.234d, does allow every CPL (330k+) holder to possess a firearm in a K-12 school, not a concealed firearm. I feel that MCL123.1102 should prevent every Michigan school district from making rules against it.
And if you think there are not guns in your local HS, you are dreaming. If drugs are sold at school, there are guns at school! And it is not the good kids that possess them. And yes, if a teacher had a handgun in school at VaTeck at Columbine HS, the body count would have been lower. And NO Cathy, he does not have the law on his side at the local HS again MCL750.234d.
Shirley July 12, 2012 at 06:29 pm
People who carry guns and call others names are the bullies!!!! There is a terrorist attract at the tunnel you should probably run down there
Mitch July 12, 2012 at 06:37 pm
Shirley, Sorry if you took my comment as name calling, I did not mean it that way.
Shirley July 12, 2012 at 06:38 pm
So many kids in the US die every year because of guns! Not so many in Canada . There are many cowboys here that does not make you brighter or tougher just aggressive. I am happy you feel like a big man because you have a gun you probably need something to make you get noticed or fell like a man.because guns are not what freedom is about.
Mitch July 12, 2012 at 06:44 pm
Shirley, I am sure the 2 Million slaughtered in Khmer Rouge would beg to differ. We won our freedom with guns. And your rant makes you look really small right now.
GambitofTroy July 12, 2012 at 06:45 pm
It's not the gun that makes them a bully...it's their mouth.
GambitofTroy July 12, 2012 at 06:50 pm
I never carry a gun without a round chambered. Criminals typically don't wait while a round is chambered. We are not in Arizona are we? No and in the state of Michigan an officer cannot stop you for no reason and ask for ID. Please see the following for clarification. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes
GambitofTroy July 12, 2012 at 06:51 pm
If you don't like the law...work to change it...whining about the fact that you don't like it doesn't help the situation. (Sarcasm noted)
Dave W July 12, 2012 at 07:30 pm
Gambit, the page you reference explains that the police "must have reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to committ a crime." Also that many states explicity list it in their laws, but the "U.S. Supreme Court established it in all jurisdictions, regardless of explicit mention in state or local laws."
So I'm confused why you keep stating he was stopped illegally and for no reason? They suspected him of committing a crime; the crime of being under the age of 18 and in possession of a firearm. If there is a reasonable doubt, that he could be illegaly in possession of a firearm, then the police have the right to stop and ID him.
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:25 am
As the story goes.....he produced ID and they still arrested him. BPD cowboys lost their cool and apparently need more training. Now you want to change our Constitution? Maybe we should ask YOU to re-write it to your liking!!!
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:29 am
Your concern was in your opinion the " mentally disturbed person" nearby. Should we arrest all mentally challenged people now? People that open carry are not your problem, it's the unregistered gun owner that should be your concern. Mr. Combs did not threaten, kill or hurt anyone. Do you realize that?
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:31 am
Well, once they had his ID why did they not release him? At that point they knew he was 18, and did nothing wrong!!! Oh wait.....let's trump up some charges, waste taxpayers money and see if that works!!!
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:34 am
Looks like a child? How old are you? I have an 17 y.o son and thats how they look. It still does not give BPD the right to arrest him. If he was " brandishing" they should have arrested him immediately, but they did not. In regards to his age....when he gave him his ID and it clearly showed he was 18 they should have released them. They did not. Shame on BPD, they need to be educated in the law, because they clearly do not know it.
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:43 am
Maybe the city should no longer accept state funding? SO........people carrying guns in rural areas are more responsible? Bottom line, is either move, or get accustomed to the fact that people can open carry! I hear Canada is accepting citizens.
Sam Adams July 13, 2012 at 01:47 am
Nicely stated!!! At some point someone has to make a stand.
cookiepro2 July 13, 2012 at 02:22 am
There are states that have laws regulating open carry. Do you want them to be kicked out of the USA too?
cookiepro2 July 13, 2012 at 02:27 am
I didn't say that people in rural areas are more responsible but they're probably not carrying guns for "self expression" or to "make a statement" but rather in the normal course of hunting or farming.
Kenneth Herman July 13, 2012 at 07:50 am
"So many kids in the US die every year because of guns!" Really, how many? I will answer too because I read facts and statistics rather than making them up to validate my argument. 214 in the US for year 2002. In the same year 556 were killed riding a bicycle. Why don't you work on bashing people that let their kids ride bikes rather than gun owners. Or at least bring something valid to the argument.
"Not so many in Canada." There are also very few shark attacks in Iowa. But let us look at the statistics. Violent crime in Canada, year 2002; 951 per 100,000. Violent crimes in the US year 2010 403 per 100,000. Hmmm more than double the violent crime rate. Let me go on to say that each state that enacted a "shall issue" law for obtaining a permit to carry a pistol saw an average 16% drop in violent crime the first year. Seems I would be safe saying "guns save lives and reduce crime". Well, not only can I say it, I can prove it. I could have respect for some one that simply says they don't like guns. But for the people that fabricate reasons "guns are bad", you are ignorant. By the way, guns are what gave us our freedom. They are also the reason we, or at least I will keep my freedom.
Sam Adams July 15, 2012 at 06:54 pm
The Police had his ID when he was in the Police car. At that point they knew he was of age, and they still arrested him!!!! You should have been at the trial!

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