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Troy Attorneys Explain Recall Process for Troy Mayor Janice Daniels

Attorney Michael Bartnik and Troy City Attorney Lori Grigg Bluhm share their legal expertise.

Dozens of Troy residents asked Mayor Janice Daniels to resign Monday night, and Daniels listened attentively but has said she has , despite the criticism over her use of a .

Attorney Michael Bartnik of Troy-based Bartnik Law Offices, who said he does not approve of the since the offending post surfaced Friday, wrote in a letter Wednesday to Troy Patch: "The people of Troy do have the recall remedy."

In order to file a recall petition, Bartnik said, there are three substantive requirements:

  1. The petition must “state clearly each reason for the recall.”
  2. “Each reason for the recall shall be based upon the officer's conduct during his or her current term of office.”
  3. The petition cannot be filed until six months after “the officer has actually performed the duties of the office." For Daniels, this is six months from the first City Council meeting following the November election, Bartnik said.

The petition may be filed with the Oakland County Clerk. "Then, whoever wants to organize this would need to put in their language that they want as grounds for the recall," Bartnik said.

Bartnik said the petition must be signed by at least 25 percent of the number of Troy voters who voted in the recent election for governor*.

He noted that since the was made before Daniels took office, it does not meet the second requirement and cannot be used as a reason for recalling the mayor.

"However, if Troy voters want to recall the mayor for something she has done while in office, the state constitution and statutes are behind them," he said.

Troy City Attorney Lori Grigg Bluhm said Troy City Council members "don't have the ability to remove her in any way, shape or form," and that a recall is the only way to remove the mayor from office. But the City Council "can pass a resolution (censure) that basically is a resolution of disapproval," she said.

She added that the censure "is really just a slap on the hand."

The only government official in the state who can remove Daniels from office without a recall is the governor, Bluhm said, though Daniels would first have to be found guilty of misconduct of office — a criminal offense.

"This probably does not rise to misconduct of office," Bluhm said.

Bartnik said he contacted Patch about the recall requirements because "the residents should just have the information available to them so they can take the initiative."

He added: "I’m very upset about the negative publicity that this has engendered for our town. It’s a negative impact on our diverse community."

*We originally reported the petition must be signed by at least 25 percent of the number of Troy voters who voted in the recent election for mayor; it should read "governor," not "mayor."

Pam Houghton December 8, 2011 at 02:21 pm
Dumb question: if the petitioners can get signatures from 25 percent of Troy's eligible voters (in this case, those that voted in this mayoral election), is it then put on a ballet for all voters to vote on? Or is that 25 percent sufficient to remove her from office? (I suppose I should Google this process!)
In any case, it sounds like she has to do something while IN office for the recall process to apply.
Jen Anesi (Editor) December 8, 2011 at 02:55 pm
My understanding is that there would then be a recall election, yes. And you are correct, she would have to do something while in office that enough voters disagreed with in order to be recalled. Mr. Bartnik's letter (attached to this story) explains it a little more.
Audre Zembrzuski December 8, 2011 at 03:09 pm
Wouldn't you have to be a legal voter to sign this petition??? I would think so since it
is voters who put her in office and not a bunch of students or the person that passed this around and put it on a blog. I think this lawyer has a lot of guts, what is he looking for new business????
Stephen December 8, 2011 at 04:50 pm
Dear Fellow Human Beings in Troy,
Regarding the action being taken against the mayor, and the comments and petitions being circulated that indicate she should lose her job for her offensive language on facebook, my opinion is that hate and intolerance are at the heart of it. In other words, I believe that it's hateful and intolerant to call for a person to lose their professional job because of... something they said in their personal life. In this economy or any economy, it's wrong to try to get someone fired because you don't like something they said when they were at home. If they misspoke at work or in their official capacity, that's an entirely separate thing. Although I still think it'd be better to ask for an apology, and recommend some sort of sensitivity training. But fired? That's gonna impact that person's ability to pay their bills, feed their family, and prepare for their future. There are plenty of people who respect the gay rights movement, but aren't necessarily in full support of it. Actions like trying to hurt a person by making them lose their job over their personal opinion...seem hateful to me. That's how it looks to me and the few friends I've asked about this. There has to be a better way to seek resolution to these concerns besides trying to get her fired. Thanks for letting me make my comments. Please know that I don't mean anyone any disrespect. Sincerely, Stephen
Jeff December 8, 2011 at 05:30 pm
Equally damaging of the hateful comments, is Ms. Daniels incredibly poor judgement in even initiating those comment on a social network as huge as "Facebook." Don't kid yourself, even though Ms. Daniels stated those FB comments were added before she decided to run for mayor, that fact remains that she was then very publicly active in Troy government.
How could anyone be so stupid to put something so contraversial in writing. Seriously, is this the type of judgement we'd expect from a "Mayor?" I think not...
Thomas T December 8, 2011 at 05:42 pm
Stephen: Substitute the n-word used to describe black people for "queer". Then rewrite your opinion.
Sincerely, Thomas
Thomas T December 8, 2011 at 05:53 pm
Here's what happens when people who are ostensibly adults use the word "queer" to disparage other human beings: http://www.wsmv.com/story/16213348/friends-say-classmate-killed-self-after-bullying
She did NOT apologize. With her smug, smirking delivery and weak words, all she did was communicate that she thought this was no big deal. I want her to sit down with former bullies who used to torment kids every day by calling them "queers" and ask them where they got the idea it was okay to do that. (Hint, Mayor: it was adults using the term in a derogatory way. Adults like YOU.) And I want her to talk to the families of gay MI teens who were bullied to the brink of suicide - or beyond it. She can call Senator Gretchen Whitmer's office for the list. I want her to tell us that if a gay Marine saved her son's life in battle, she would call that Marine a "queer" and tell him that she thinks he shouldn't be able to marry the person of his choosing. I want her to stay out of New York City. Without the "queers" she hates so much, it would be a boring hellhole of Wal-Marts, missing a lot of the creativity, talent and generosity that gay people bring wherever they go. She doesn't deserve to love New York, and it surely doesn't deserve her. This goes far beyond "one little word that people don't like". She is indecent. She has horrible judgment. She is an unrepentant bigot. She does not deserve to represent Troy. Resign, Janice. You are unfit for duty.
judy lucare December 8, 2011 at 06:00 pm
I have never read such cruel, hateful, accusations against another human being while attempting to make the point that their target person is hateful! Is this what we teach our kids? Someone makes a mistake, apologizes and then we trash and demean that person in the hopes of destroying them? What about the venom that is being directed at the mayor? Isn't that hate speech? What makes one comment worse than the other and who gets to decide? To define anyone by a single word or statement they may have made is unfair. Is there anyone who can claim they have never said or done anything they have later regretted? Are we that unforgiving? Are gays more protected than a hardworking single woman who is doing her best to get along in this world? She apologized...now maybe some of you should consider doing the same.
Mamacita December 8, 2011 at 06:12 pm
I agree with you, Stephen, but want to clarify one thing. Being on the city council is not a career in Troy, as it is in some other cities. It is basically a volunteer job with a small ($100-$200 per month) stipend.
Thomas T December 8, 2011 at 06:20 pm
Judy, you can try to defend the smirking bigot all you like, but the fact remains that adults who flippantly use words like she did without a sincere apology ENDANGER KIDS. Her "hard work" hurts people. Her "getting along in this world" at the expense of others is intolerable.
You want to talk about cruel, hateful accusations? Google Tyler Clementi. Google Jacob Rogers. Talk to anyone who has been bullied to death by someone like this horrible person Troy elected. This is not an isolated slip of the tongue on her part - it's part of who she is. The fact that she doesn't even know it's wrong despite being told multiple times makes her unfit to govern. She doesn't deserve an apology from anyone. She deserves justice. She deserves to be fired. It's only out of mercy that she should be allowed to resign.
danny December 8, 2011 at 06:21 pm
It's incredible that this is still being debated. If the Mayor of Chicago, or Toledo, or Miami, or Dallas... had posted the FB comment AND behaved as Janice Daniels has since then, they would either have to resign or be booted out. Why would the citizens and business of Troy want anything less for their city? How on earth can ANYONE, gay or straight, defend the pathetic actions of Mrs Daniels after her bigoted views were brought to light? If a 10 year old tried to get away with the kind of lame apologies she has offered they would be corrected immediately by any sane adult. But with your own MAYOR you're going to buy into the BS that SHE is the victim here? Really?!? Wake up!! This is a national story because she has behaved outrageously for ANY city. It is very sad and misguided that anyone would feel sorry because there is anger directed at her. I feel sorry for her for many other reasons but not for that. She must go.
Thomas T December 8, 2011 at 06:31 pm
Danny: exactly. Her "apologies' consisted of "it's just one word that you don't like", "it's in the dictionary", and "I'm getting emails saying that people want to move to Troy because of what I said."
Not exactly contrition as normal people understand it.
danny December 8, 2011 at 07:02 pm
@Thomas. I agree totally. It is very clear she doesn't think it's a big deal... and for me THAT is the shocking part. I do not fault anyone for making a mistake. We all have parts of ourselves that are ignorant because we haven't been exposed to a bigger picture. I am not trying to insult Janice Daniels by calling her a bigot. She is one by it's pure definition. It is ignorance. Her actions AFTER it was pointed out that this is offensive is the part that shows how dangerous it is that she is a mayor. Like most bigots, she is actually surprised by the response. She thinks people are being mean. She thinks there are conspiracies and hidden motives in the outrage. And she will most likely come up with anything that will allow her to avoid self reflection and learn something from this. She is a textbook bigot and she is holding on tight. All at the expense of a city and it's citizens. Very, very sad to think of the people and business who will suffer because of one persons refusal to open their mind just a fraction. Most likely, she would rather risk hurting an entire city than face the shame.
Thomas T December 8, 2011 at 07:11 pm
@Danny, again, you're very insightful. I'm not sure that we can allow a college educated woman who has traveled at least to NYC and who has worked in real estate the excuse of total ignorance. But she did co-found the Tea Party in Troy, and that reflects a very "us-vs.-them" mindset that can only thrive in the stony soil of inexperience. And a big part of that is a lack of self-reflection and a strong sense of entitlement.
"If your parents don't straighten you out when you are young, then the world will do it for them when you are an adult. That will not go well for you, because the world doesn't love you." - Miss Manners
danny December 8, 2011 at 07:31 pm
@Thomas. That is a very appropriate quote. I am originally from MI. I return there several times a year from NYC. This Christmas also. All my family and many friends are there. I cannot tell you how explosive this situation is. I have received emails, texts, phone calls.... everyone is very upset. Maybe I haven't been reading the best newspapers and websites but, I don't get the feeling that Troy in general understands the implications of what is going to happen. There WILL be a mass boycott of the city. Nobody I know, myself included, will tolerate a Mayor Daniels as she presents herself now. She isn't capable of listening to others, even if they are the majority of the people she serves. Unfortunately, the restriction of dollars coming into the city will be the only thing left to pry her out kicking and screaming. For that, I think she is selfish in addition. I hate that others will be affected, but it's better than the damage a bigot with power can cause.
anna vidal December 8, 2011 at 07:41 pm
The other day, I heard Michelle Bachman say that tea party people "say what they mean and mean what they say." I strongly believe that Daniels meant every word that she said on FB. She did nothing but insult all of us with her so called apology.
Constance Johnson December 8, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Stephen: people lose their jobs often for misconduct which occurs outside their official duties. This can happen when their is a connection between their conduct and official responsibilities. In my opinion, the mayor's inability to understand she represents all citizens of troy without maligning certain groups casts doubt on her ability to effectively represent troy's citizens. What a pity her beliefs were not made public prior to the election.
Randy_Perino December 8, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Stephen, a human being who cares about her city would resign. It's all about Janice. So sad for this region. Don't we have enough slime representing us in the state legislature?
Edward Tsutomu Endo December 9, 2011 at 12:02 am
So what if she said something on Facebook? It's freedom of speech. The same thing happened to Liberal Juan Williams when he expressed his concerns about Muslims wearing burkas. The nutbags at NPR fired him for a candid comment that he made while off duty. The same kind of spineless liberals have nothing but hate filled rants against Janice Daniels because she has a spine to express what she really thinks. Troy is better off having her run the city. At least when she says something, you'll all know where she stands, unlike crooked liberal liars who tickle the people's ears.
Lynn Hodorek December 9, 2011 at 12:32 am
Edward--let's try to address those points one by one.
1) Freedom of speech is great but it's not an excuse to be a jerk. The First Amendment protects the individual's right to express their opinion without the government throwing them in jail. Janice was more than free to say "I openly disagree with the decision in New York". No one is denying her her right to have an opinion about gay marriage. HATE speech is not protected under the First Amendment, nor should it be. 2) Janice's remark on Facebook does not show that she "has a spine". It shows that she has absolutely no sense of what is appropriate to post on a public forum and what isn't. I would say that the people with spines are the ones who have emailed her, called her, emailed the rest of council, and shown up to council meetings to express their own opinions. You should also note that many of those people were liberals--not "spineless liberals" as you referred to them. 3) It is also important to be aware of the fact that it is not only liberals who were upset about what Janice said. It's anyone who has any sense of common decency...liberals, conservatives, gay, straight, whoever. 4) You mention the phrase "crooked liberal liars"...have you done any research whatsoever into the activities of Troy Citizens United, a group with whom Daniels is very closely connected? Alright, I think that's all I needed to say.
Thomas T December 9, 2011 at 12:46 am
It's not about liberal vs. conservative. It's about people who know how to conduct themselves in a pluralistic society vs. nasty bigots.
We know where she stands, all right. But it didn't take a spine for her to tell us. All it took was a lack of prudence, a big mouth, and a sense of entitlement. For one, I'm glad she said it. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and it looks like her brand of slime is drying up as we speak. Good thing you weren't on the West Coast during WWII, Edward. Based on your name, "spineless liberals" would have had to fight to keep you out of an internment camp. People like Janice would have loved to lock you and any other Asian right up.
Susan December 9, 2011 at 04:01 pm
Maybe we need to get to the real heart of the problem. Janice Daniels was ELECTED to this position because so few people voted in the election. If you didn't vote, you cast your vote for whoever won - in this case Ms. Daniels. A democracy needs an educated population to sustain itself. I believe apathy on the part of the electorate is responsible for placing her in office.
That being said, Mr. Bartnik has alerted us to the remedy necessary to correct our mistake. At the same time he put Mayor Daniels "on notice" that she must be responsible for her own behavior, every minute of every day. She will be held accountable for her actions. Just as we all should be. I hope the damage she has done to our city doesn't cost us even lower housing prices, more stores closing, more unemployment. But if it does, we have no one to blame but those who didn't vote in the last election; oh yes, and Ms. Daniels. Let's use this as a teachable moment that we are all responsible for our actions, including taking an interest in our local, state and federal politics before an election - not only after our politicians take office and displease us.
Lynn Gross December 9, 2011 at 09:51 pm
@Susan - you're exactly right. When thoughtful, intelligent, educated people ignore elections, this is what happens. As the saying goes, "all politics is local." What is truly a shame is that there are Troy voters who never even heard of Janice Daniels before this controversy.
canseeallsides December 9, 2011 at 10:53 pm
It's working and they are listening but this seems pretty clear, they can't really do anything to help, so it's up to you!
http://boycotttroy.com
Rhetoric December 12, 2011 at 02:12 am
I wonder if someone with legal expertise has realized that she made those comments as a Realtor, who is not a member of the general public. A licensed real estate agent cannot show prejudice to any group, religion, race, ethnicity, etc... Otherwise they are in risk of losing their license. Is that what John Kersten (Century 21 Town & County owner) and she spoke about recently when "they" decided to put her in escrow? I bet Kersten didn't want to field the firestorm that he saw coming regarding his bigoted agent’s comments.
Curious to think if we (Troy residents) can get the petition going for a recall based off the detrimental way she has handled herself since this story came to light. She has been mayor since her responses and her opposition to any form of regret of this situation. I mean, standing by her previous statements is reaffirming her disdain for the gay and lesbian community. So doesn’t that count as a “reason for the recall [that] shall be based upon the officer’s conduct during his or her current term in office”?
c December 12, 2011 at 09:33 pm
Come on, I am sure that everyone that is posting here has at one time or another said something about another gender, ethnicity, gay, straight or whatever that was not so nice. It amazes me that so many people are getting their panties in a bunch about this. I have heard a lot worse said by gay people to each other than this and the same of blacks, caucasian etc. Pretty soon we won't even beable to speak to one another for fear of saying something not kosher. Oops, am I offending someone by saying not kosher? No, just using a saying that has been around for a long time. Queer is a word that has been around for a long time and it can mean many things. Janice Daniels was stating her disappointment in gay marriage instead of gay she used queer. Get over it and let her do her job. This pettiness is not helping our city.
Thomas T December 12, 2011 at 09:57 pm
Tyler Clementi's parents disagree with you.
Cathy January 14, 2012 at 03:19 pm
I think this article says that if you voted for the governor you would be allowed to vote in the recall for the mayor election.
Cathy January 14, 2012 at 03:31 pm
I agree with Randy (comment below), but the fact that she halted a jobs initiative that began 10 years ago (the transit center) that took until now to get funded by the federal government is even more of a reason for her to go. This tea party mentality is going to end many job initiatives going forward since they think you shouldn't take any help from anyone to move the city forward. Where does the money come from then? Us? Don't we pay enough? Our government is "for the people". If the federal government wants to help "the people" who is she to stop it.

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