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Troy Mayor Compares Homosexual Lifestyle to Cigarette Smoking

Janice Daniels, who may face a recall election in November, made the comparison during a radio show Wednesday morning.

Troy Mayor Janice Daniels, who first came under fire in December for making an , is facing further criticism this week after she compared the dangers of the homosexual lifestyle to the dangers of cigarette smoking Wednesday during a radio interview.

"What I said while I was mayor ... I was in a business meeting, I come from a business perspective ... I said that I would bring a doctor into a meeting that would say that the homosexual lifestyle is dangerous," Daniels told Talk Radio 1270 host Charlie Langton, according to CBS. "Had I been with a group of smokers I might have said I would like to bring a doctor into this meeting to say that smoking is dangerous."

After Langton asked whether the mayor felt it was dangerous to be gay, Huffington Post reported, Daniels said she had no opinion, but noted, "I think that doctors can make a case for it, certainly."

The radio interview took place less than a day after political action committee Recall Janice Daniels filed . If 7,985 of the group's signatures are verified, the recall issue will be put to Troy voters in the Nov. 6 general election.

Daniels has remained the center of controversy after  (a  was later approved), telling the  Gay-Straight Alliance she would bring in an expert to tell them  and writing a lengthy position paper some viewed as .

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Sharon June 15, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Yes, indeed. The major problem in this country is people fighting against mindless bigtotry. Oh the humanity!
Sharon June 15, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ahem. Although Ms. Daniels is now trying to change the story to tell us she said she would bring "a doctor" she actually said a panel of psychologists. So, she was talking mental illness, not medical illness. Need proof? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTAIPpvPbY&feature=plcp
Sharon June 15, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Um, in addition to you wasting lots of our time, Janice Daniels the citizen spoke at virtually every city council meeting, sometimes twice. Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkpXKODdcI&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-u5EivG8mA&feature=plcp
Sharon June 15, 2012 at 12:13 pm
By the way, Dale, she said the line to a gay woman -- gay women have the lowest incidence of HIV, far lower than heterosexuals like you. So you and Janice may believe there is a "homosexual lifestyle" but it's a stereotype. You have a Hollywood Fax News idea of what gay people are like. Perhaps you should get to know some gay people instead of trying to convince us that they are evil. WWJD? Not what you are doing, sir.
Glenn June 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Faith G- you have intrigued me with your paranoia. Please explain how this new school curriculum for increasing the number of homosexuals results in more pre-teen births. That is an amazing feat!!
Dave W June 15, 2012 at 02:05 pm
faith G,
Congratulations on being able to compile one of the most factually incorrect pieces of propaganda that I've read in a while... 1. Homosexuals do NOT die younger than heterosexuals. The "study" done to spread that lie had some major flaws. http://www.christianpost.com/news/expert-blasts-study-on-gays-dying-younger-as-severely-flawed-26941/ 2. Many, many studies have been done that show children of homosexual parents do as well, and in some cases better, than heterosexual parents. It depends on income and access to education. http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051012/study-same-sex-parents-raise-well-adjusted-kids 3. There is no homosexual curriculum, but there have been moves made in states like California to not hide the fact that historical figures were gay. No one is teaching children to be gay because it's not something you learn. 4. One of the biggest lies is this bit about pediophilia. Pediophilia is a disorder that exists in both straight and gay people. The notion that this applies only to gay men is propoganda spread by Paul Cameron and has been debunked. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html 5. Pre-teen births? You relealize that homosexuals don't reproduce, right? They are born to heterosexual parents... 6. Last I checked sex ed classes teach safe sex to prevent STDs and teen pregnancies. Your post is just an example of the blind hatred and misinformation that religious groups have pushed for decades.
Dave W June 15, 2012 at 02:21 pm
Dale,
Here is the current listing on the Red Cross website: "The top priorities of the American Red Cross are the safety of our volunteer blood donors and the ultimate recipients of blood. On June 11, 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary's Advisory Committee on Blood Safety and Availability voted against recommending a change to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) policy of a lifetime deferral for men who have sex with other men. The FDA is responsible for determining donor eligibility requirements and the Red Cross is required to follow their decisions. However, the Red Cross does support the use of rational, scientifically-based deferral periods that are applied fairly and consistently among donors who engage in similar risk activities. We will continue to work through the AABB (American Association of Blood Banks) to press for donor deferral policies that are fair and consistent and based on scientific evidence, while still protecting patients from potential harm." http://www.redcrossblood.org/donating-blood/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-topic#lifestyle
Daffy Noodnicks June 15, 2012 at 02:27 pm
Burning witches was accepted for centuries. Should we go back to those times? Thank goodness human society evolves (for some people). And thank goodness in America we are not ruled by arbitrary religious interpretations.
Dave W June 15, 2012 at 02:52 pm
As a side note, since your comment seems to be derived from Paul Cameron and his Family Research Institute, I'll also note that the Southern Poverty Law Center has officially classified the Family Research Institute as a hate group. They also note that the founder "Cameron himself has been cast out of both the American Psychological Association and the American Sociological Association. The ASA declared that, 'Dr. Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism.' "
John David June 15, 2012 at 04:20 pm
Dale,
I messed up the link to the AABB and Red Cross joint statement that is referred to in the paragraph that Dave W posted above from the Red Cross. Here's the correct link. Hopefully it works this time. http://www.aabb.org/pressroom/statements/Pages/statement061510.aspx
Jeff June 15, 2012 at 04:59 pm
So Dale M., what have we learned today?
Perhaps we should do JUST a little background research before we post a statement. Certainly, you don't want the reputation that you will say anything to support the mayor, no matter how incorrect? Do you?
Sharon June 15, 2012 at 05:05 pm
Should we discriminate, then, against people who have been to Africa and walked through cow pastures in England throughout society because of those acts, or would that be unjust, Dale?
CC June 15, 2012 at 05:55 pm
So you couldn't find verification, but you decided to post the misinformation anyway. Nice. So no, the mayor actually isn't speaking the truth. It has nothing to do with her views being out of fashion...they are based on ignorance.
Randy Jasky June 16, 2012 at 08:23 am
Pure, unadulterated hogwash.
Your opinion does not equal fact, Cathy.
Cathy Fucinari June 16, 2012 at 11:54 am
For Randy's comment:
I never suggested it was fact. Representing an opinion as fact is your purview. It is my opinion (that is what I believe this forum is for). As well as the opinion of the other 9,300 people who signed the petitions in a 90 day period. Many other people told me they wanted to sign, but were afraid of retribution. The vote will be private.
Mat King June 16, 2012 at 01:09 pm
Is this reverse physiology? I thought this was America? I just want to know if someone has a disagreement with the Homosexual lifestyle they get bullied and ostracized and get called a bully. There is fact that the homosexual lifestyle is more dangerous and destructive than the heterosexual life style. Just stop and be honest with yourself and not just react with emotion please. Is two "partners" better than a man and a woman. Do homosexuals have more sexual partners than heterosexuals? Is disease transferred more often during homosexual sex? What is homosexual sex actually? Why should someone get special treatment and rights because they choose to be homosexual? I can not (naturally) choose to be a black man or a woman I was born that way. I can not (naturally) change that. Just something to think about. The facts can be review at the CDC website among many others. Just think about these things first before commenting please.
Irv Wengrow June 16, 2012 at 02:10 pm
Let's not lose sight of the primary issue we had which was the Mayor, as our Mayor, talking about human sexuality with teenagers. Someone tell me how this is defensible in any context.
Cathy Fucinari June 16, 2012 at 02:36 pm
How can you acknowledge that the color of your skin is not a choice, and not consider that your sexuality is also not a choice? It is obvious to me, that Janice has no more idea than you do. AND, as Irv pointed out, she has no business talking to our children about it,
Helen Rieland June 16, 2012 at 02:38 pm
Mat - Can you please post the links to the CDC and other websites that contain the facts you are referring to?
I have done some thinking on this topic. I'm particularly interested in your statement or question. "Is two "partners" better than a man and a woman." I don't think you can ask is something better or worse unless you bring in an emotional component to your response. When I look at this question from a purely unemotional, fact based approach the only difference I can see between same sex partners and male/female partners is that the male/female partners MAY create a child through sexual union and the same sex partners can't. Many male/female partners never create offspring so in this case I can't see any difference at all between the two types of unions. Now if I have the belief that creating offspring is BETTER than not creating offspring then I could make some sort of emotional judgement in favor of the fertile male/female partners. But where does that leave the non non-fertile male/female partners? They don't make the cut. If I think it is better to not create offspring then you can easily see that I would think that the same sex partners are BETTER because it is guaranteed that they will never create offspring. So any judgements of which are better have to be based on my personal emontional based beliefs. Which do you think is BETTER and what facts and beliefs are you using as the basis for the comparison?
Dave W June 16, 2012 at 02:59 pm
Mat,
Quite a few well respected organizations disagree with you: Major health organizations from the American Psychiatric Association ( http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx ) to the World Health Organization ( http://new.paho.org/hq/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6803&Itemid=1926 ) to the American Academy of Pediatrics to federal Department of Health and Human Services have all dismissed notions that homosexuality is anything medically/psychologically unnatural or inherently dangerous. Also, Dr. Jack Drescher (member of the American Psychiatric Association) was asked about the Mayor's comments and stated: "She’s not really stating a medical issue. She’s really stating something about the perception that everyone who is gay is leading a promiscuous sexual life and the promiscuous sexual life may lead to increased health risks. Religious social conservatives call that ‘the gay lifestyle,’ even though that’s as absurd a phrase as ‘the heterosexual lifestyle.’ There are sexually promiscuous heterosexuals and there are risk-taking heterosexuals. It’s not really a medical issue. It’s a culture wars issue." If you want to continue to push stereotypes and misinformation, people will call you out for it. The SPLC does... http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths
Dave W June 16, 2012 at 03:21 pm
Thanks Helen, that was a very reasoned response.
Mat - I'm curious, when did you make the conscious choice to be straight? Or could you choose to fall in love with someone of the same sex? If you can "choose" to do that, I'd venture to say you're not heterosexual. If you can't, then you are heterosexual. No one is asking for special treatment or rights, people are asking to be treated as equals under the law. "I thought this was America?" You know, with liberty and justice for all...
Mat King June 16, 2012 at 03:35 pm
I put that out there to see what the replies would be and I see that there are emotional replies. Also, I see that this has become a simple issue of is God right or wrong. Last time I checked He said it was wrong.
Daffy Noodnicks June 16, 2012 at 03:54 pm
So Mat, you pretend to speak for God? It is just possible your understanding is not correct? There are lots of God loving people who believe otherwise.
Dave W June 16, 2012 at 04:10 pm
Mat, Helen's response to you and my first response were not "emotional replies". If anything, Helen's response was the perfect logical counter to your emotionally charged "partner" question. I provided you links to medical associations in response to your claims that "there is fact that the homosexual lifestyle is more dangerous and destructive than the heterosexual life style". Those medical professionals disagree with you and they have actually studied the issue closely.
My second response was a little more emotionally charged, but it still points to the fact that your "special rights" arguement doesn't really hold water. Please provide an example of a "special right" and how that right would be special under the law. If you look closely at all three posts, we never mentioned God. Since you can only fall back on religious arguements, then I assume everything you say is emotional instead of based in facts. Last time I checked, He also said that eating shellfish and getting a tatoo were equally wrong, and that we should stone adulters, and that slavery was acceptable. Are these all things you think are right?
Helen Rieland June 16, 2012 at 04:15 pm
Really? God said that? How do you know?
Cathy Fucinari June 16, 2012 at 05:28 pm
I'm going to mention God.
Last I heard, Jesus said "Judge not, lest ye be judged". And "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". God gave us free will. Only he gets to judge our use of that will.
John David June 16, 2012 at 05:30 pm
These are prohibitions contained in the Bible regarding what Dave W. said, above, regarding shellfish, tattoos, killing adulterers and condoning slavery: I'm no biblical scholar, I just looked them up in my Bible.
Tattoo Leviticus 19:28: “do not tattoo yourselves, I am the Lord” Shellfish Leviticus 11:10, 11: “but of the various creatures that crawl or swim in the water, whether in the sea or in the rivers, all those that lack either fins or scales are loathsome for you, and you shall treat them as loathsome. Their flesh you shall not eat and their dead bodies you shall loathe.”Slavery: Deuteronomy 15:12-15, addresses the treatment of Hebrew slaves and Colossians 4:1 addresses the treatment of slaves.Adultery: Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die." Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."
John David June 16, 2012 at 05:40 pm
And Christ said, of the second of the two greatest commandments: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" (Mark12:31). He also said: "But what I say to you to you is: offer no resistance to injury. When a person strikes you on the right cheek, turn and offer him the other: (Matthew 5:39)
CC June 16, 2012 at 05:43 pm
If you think that is the SOLE focus of the recall effort, then you just aren't paying attention. Her inappropriate comments about homosexuals is what the media is going to latch on to because it gets the most headlines, but that is merely a fraction of reasons to recall her.
Dan McCreedy June 20, 2012 at 06:43 pm
I just don't see where that has anything to do with being the mayor of a suburb. Is she saying that she doesn't want them in Troy? Is she picking and choosing those that are worthy of living in Troy? I see all kinds of lifestyles I would not choose for myself. It's just that when YOU decide how other people should live their lives, it sounds like YOU have a problem, not them.
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