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Group Plans to File Petitions to Recall Troy Mayor on Tuesday Morning

If at least 7,985 signatures are valid, the recall issue will be placed on the Nov. 6 ballot.

Recall Janice Daniels, the political action committee that has led the charge to recall Troy Mayor Janice Daniels, announced Monday evening that it will officially file its recall petitions to the Oakland County Elections Division in Pontiac on Tuesday morning.

The group, led by Troy residents Matt Binkowski and John Kulesz, it had 7,760 – or 97 percent – of the 7,985 signatures required to trigger a recall election. The group was at the Troy Public Library, among other locations, collecting last-minute signatures over the weekend. Binkowski would not say Monday how many signatures had been collected.

The group had until this Friday to file the recall petition and signatures with the county before the group's initial signatures begin to expire. According to state recall procedures, the department then has 22 days after the petition is filed to verify the signatures.

“Assuming they verify the signatures as valid and the number has been satisfied, then it would be something on the November election ballot," Troy City Attorney Lori Grigg Bluhm said. "At that point, we would have to see which way the vote went."

Bluhm said the ballot item "would basically be ."

"It would be a yes or no question," Troy City Clerk Aileen Bittner said. “The law says that if there are more yes votes than no votes, that’s it.”

Bittner said what would happen next, if the mayor is recalled, is tricky.

“According to the charter, in the absence of the mayor, the mayor pro tem assumes responsibilities. Beyond that, the city attorney and I would need to do an analysis to determine what would happen next.”

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Daniels first came under fire in December for her  and has remained the center of controversy after  (a  was later approved), telling the  Gay-Straight Alliance she would bring in an expert to tell them  and writing a lengthy position paper some viewed as .

For comprehensive coverage of the recall effort, visit the Troy Mayor Janice Daniels topic page.

CC June 12, 2012 at 02:28 AM
Very proud of the effort that went into this. Thank you to all of the folks that collected signatures at the library, went door to door, or just spread the word. It is a worthy undertaking to allow the citizens of Troy the opportunity for a "do over".
Nicholas C June 12, 2012 at 02:42 AM
Thanks for being a bunch of cry babies forcing the people who elected her to elect her again only one year later. This is nothing but sour grapes and is another predictable ploy by the tax-and-spend idiots in this city. You morons just want enough elections until you get what you want just like the unnecessary library millage. It's funny how most of you work for the city of Troy!
Daffy Noodnicks June 12, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Yeah. The roughly 8,000 people who signed the petition work for the City.
Inner Voice June 12, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Nicholas - What you think you see in the world around you is actually a reflection of what's inside you. If you're looking for sour grapes I suggest looking in a mirror. Talk about being a cry baby. Read your post and weep.
Ron Butterbaugh June 12, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Nicholas C is proably the same guy who speaks so often at council meeting. And also the same guy who submitted a dozen "joke" recall petitions to Oakland County. We really appreciate his comments. They define everything we need to know about him and the JD team. Please continue! Everytime you open your mouth, you drive more votes in favor of the recall! Thank you Nick. Keep up the good work.
Dude-in-space June 12, 2012 at 03:19 AM
An election is an election. Sore losers, the Mayor is entitled to take the stand she has as it reflects the viewpoint of those who have elected her. Her comments most likely are factual and to the point, or else no one would take offense. I thought that homosexuals only made up 2% of the population, so who on earth could be putting up such a fuss. Bottom line, the truth hurts. Further more, there should not be a Troy High School Gay-Straight Alliance, what are we teaching our children! All of this from Facebook?
Boo Radley June 12, 2012 at 03:21 AM
Nicholas C, YOUR entire post reeks of sour grapes. If you are so strong in your support for Ms. Daniels, and indeed feel that her supporters are the majority in Troy, then why are you so upset? I think it could be that you now know this is NOT the case and that there are THOUSANDS of signatures to prove it! After what you just posted, I find it laughable that you are calling anyone else a "cry baby"!
Daffy Noodnicks June 12, 2012 at 03:46 AM
A recall is a recall you intolerant person. And the truth which has come to light since the election is what has hurt the mayor.
Inner Voice June 12, 2012 at 03:51 AM
Yes "the Mayor is entitled to take the stand she has as it reflects the viewpoint of those who have elected her." Those that she does not represent have the right to sign recall petitions. Truth does not hurt. The truth will liberate you. It will set you free. It is backwards, upside down thinking that hurts. Often it is the adults that need to learn from the children.
Dude-in-space June 12, 2012 at 04:42 AM
Nicholas C is a solid American...
Dave W June 12, 2012 at 05:18 AM
When you say "her comments most likely are factual and to the point, or else no one would take offense", that is pretty misinformed. Most of what she has put out has been misinformation or just lies, and that is the reason so many people have supported the recall. This applies to all of the issues since she's been in office: the transit center, the library, the budget, as well as her bigoted comments. 1. The transit center is not costing the city millions of dollars. The cost is funded through a federal grant. 2. The library can not be funded by simply spending the city's general fund. Once confronted with the budget process, she was forced to admit the city didn't have the funds like she had claimed. 3. Being homosexual is not "dangerous", no more than being heterosexual. Regardless of one's sexuality, it is the steps they take to protect themselves that decides their risk factors. 4. The City Mgr responded to and corrected the Mayor's position paper (point-by-point) highlighting the numerous inaccuracies. From your comment though, it seems you think this is only about "the gays". It's not just "the gays" that are "putting up such a fuss", it's everyone in this community who will not tolerate her actions. Also, the GSA serves as a group where kids can feel safe and combats the hate too often displayed. What's sad is that kids are bullied and attacked because people teach their kids to hate people who are different from them. That is the true shame.
Jeff June 12, 2012 at 05:22 AM
When it comes time to cast your vote in November, all you REALLY need to know about Janice Daniels is reflected in her statement she delivers at nearly every City Council Meeting. Before Daniels votes on an important issue, she proudly declares that the reason behind her vote is to support those citizens her voted for her in the election. Seriously? I thought as mayor, you are sworn to represent the best interests of ALL of the citizens of Troy, NOT just those who voted for you. What's so sad is she truly believes that is her function. Yes, sadly this is Janice Daniels....YOUR mayor!
Abbey June 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM
How to irritate zealots like Nicky Cherasaros in one easy step: be sincere. They don't understand that, and it confuses them.
Cathy Fucinari June 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Talk about wasted spending on elections! What cost this city so much money was the misinformation spread by your buddies and the fake proposals put on the ballot to confuse the voters. That was on YOU! The funny part is that THIS initiative didn't cost the city a dime. Volunteer work and election that is already scheduled.
Cathy Fucinari June 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Dude-in-space. What an appropriate name. Only someone from another planet would not be aware that ALL segments, even the 2%'s, of our society are protected by our constitution, and are entitled to live their lives in peace. I have to ask, do you think facebook causes homosexuality? Or did facebook reflect her bully mentality, The fuss is because, as a government official, she cannot operate with bias. She has spent the last 6 months defending her bias. You just revealed yours here.
Cathy Fucinari June 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM
I believe, Jeff, with her twisted logic, that since she did not take the part of the oath of office to uphold the city charter, she finds herself exempt from representing Those that did not vote for her Of the ~81,000 people that live here, 73,300 DID NOT VOTE FOR HER! Of the 57,400 registered voters, 45,400 DID NOT VOTE FOR HER!
Jen Anesi (Editor) June 12, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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Therese June 12, 2012 at 01:17 PM
I don't believe in recall elections unless it is proved an elected official has broken the law. Other than that, voters elected her to office and she should finish out her term as mayor. Every time the union-backed liberals lose an election, the loud minority spins the truth and implements a recall vote ... as was attempted with Snyder, as happened with Walker in WI, etc. Daniels said she was against wasteful spending (the transit center) and higher taxes during her campaign. How has she violated her campaign promises? Incidentally, the City of Troy is on a path to bankruptcy within 5 years. Maybe a fiscally responsible mayor who wants to address union healthcare/pension issues to address revenue shortfalls is being targeted here. Looks like the Wisconsin recall election to me. Hopefully the result will be the same. If you've signed the recall petition or plan to vote against Daniels, best hang on to your wallet! The tax hikes are coming.
Daffy Noodnicks June 12, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Impeachment is for when an official breaks the law. A recall is entirely appropriate when an official's performance while in office is deemed unsatisfactory by the voters. These are different procedures. The recall is not about campaign promises or a liberal/conservative issue. If the recall is the work of a vocal minority (though more people signed the petition than voted for her) what are you worried about?
Daffy Noodnicks June 12, 2012 at 02:24 PM
It is also my understanding that the most recent budget resolved the short term bankruptcy issue, although the mayor was the only member of council to vote against it. How is that fiscally responsible?
CC June 12, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Therese - Your belief of recall elections is inconsistent with the laws. If you don't like the law, then work to have it changed. Did you pay any attention to the budget sessions? The Mayor made ZERO suggestions to "address union healthcare/pension issues". In fact, she barely spoke in the budget sessions at all. Please don't try to compare this situation to the attempted recall of the Wisconsin Governer...the two situations have nothing to do with each other.
Dude-in-space June 12, 2012 at 10:54 PM
I can't help but make another statement. When I posted a comment about "an election is an election" I never stated my personal views towards homosexuality. Nor did I make a constitutional stand. I merely wanted to know what the fuss was about over 2% of the population. My personal belief after collecting information is; there is a witch hunt for the current mayor. Because her intent is to cut spending and bring fiscal responsibility to the city of Troy. Her week spot is she said "queer" in a random comment on her facebook. Another personal belief is that a person's facebook is of a personal interest and unless there was an actual official comment on an official medium it should have no relevance. But it is the nail that some wish to use, to foster their goals of continued fiscal irresponsibility. One gentleman points out that funds for the transit budget comes from a federal grant; again... tax dollars. It is inconceivable that any politician can be labeled with a performance issue for NOT spending money.
Dude-in-space June 12, 2012 at 10:57 PM
Ms. Cathy Fucinari wants to make issue with me, I am an individual who has defended hers, and your right to choice in lifestyle, regardless of sex, race or religion as a military veteran. I even support the right for gay marriage, but keep it out of the high schools. Teach math, science and those fundamental skill building subjects that will overcome obstacles. I don't believe I attacked homosexuality, nor did I share any of my beliefs short of my belief for the tactics used in this recall. So, be respectful and don't attack me. I value and respect your opinions.
cookiepro2 June 12, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Dude-in-space, I think the times of "fiscal irresponsibility" are long past, due to the simple fact that our property tax revenue is down. My impression of the city of Troy government is that it's undergone an extreme belt tightening the past couple years. Employees have gone down 40%, retirees not being replaced, departments eliminated or combined, privatization of certain functions, concessions from unions for what employees remain, and highly reduced benefits for any new employees. In fact, I thought our city management was given a "Best Practices" award for cost cutting and held up as a standard state-wide. This was all accomplished before Janice Daniels became mayor. What I find ironic, is at the last council meeting, one of the TCU regular speakers comes up and complains about the assessing department function being eliminated and transferred to the county. How can you complain about something being out-sourced or up-sourced, when you were instrumental in cutting off the funding, by campaigning against millage increases? You can't have it both ways.
Dale Murrish June 12, 2012 at 11:31 PM
So this won’t cost the taxpayers anything? How much time will the city clerk and attorney spend studying it? “According to the charter, in the absence of the mayor, the mayor pro tem assumes responsibilities. Beyond that, the city attorney and I would need to do an analysis to determine what would happen next.” Troy City Clerk Aileen Bittner How much will get accomplished by the council during the time when there is a 3-3 tie? Will this unify our town? I doubt it. http://troy.patch.com/blog_posts/election-nullifiers-to-circulate-misleading-petition The petition Matt Binkowski is so proud of circulating is itself filled with half-truths. Quoting a partial sentence is worse than quoting out of context; it is a deliberate lie in my book.
Sharon June 13, 2012 at 01:29 AM
Tricky Nicky stikes again!
Sharon June 13, 2012 at 01:32 AM
What's the purpose of the GSA? Partially to make gay teens feel welcome and accepted and make sure they don't get bullied by insensitive jerks like our mayor. It has a purpose, which you couldn't possibly understand. Perhaps if someday you learn you have a gay member of your family, you will stop being so innsensitive.
Dude-in-space June 13, 2012 at 01:46 AM
Nobody should be bullied, but that does not take a GSA.
anonymous June 13, 2012 at 02:20 AM
If I was Ms Daniels, I'd watch very carefully how they verify signatures!
cookiepro2 June 13, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Nope, there can only be operational (small) millages passed without voter approval, thanks to a TCU-sponsored charter amendment. Any increase in your taxes would be due to an increase in your property value, which is not due to whose sitting on city council.

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