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Rifle-Toting Troy Teen Open Carries for First Time Since Trial

Sean Combs, 18, and several other open carry advocates met Monday evening at Shain Park in Birmingham.

Less than three weeks after a jury of disturbing the peace and brandishing a firearm, Combs picked up his M1 Garand rifle – which had been used as evidence – from Birmingham Police on Monday.

Then, he and a few other open carry advocates took to the streets of Birmingham once again Monday evening, openly carrying rifles and handguns at .

The group, organized through opencarry.org, all share one interest: raising awareness of the right to openly carry firearms – and not get in trouble for it.

"I'm not here to make anyone feel uncomfortable or scare someone or make them feel like they're not safe because I have a gun," Combs said. "I actually want the opposite; I don't want anyone to feel like they're in any kind of danger, because they're not."

This is only the second time Combs has ever carried a gun in public, and said he did so in order to make a statement.

Combs ignited an open carry debate in Metro Detroit in April when he was stopped in downtown Birmingham for carrying a loaded rifle. Combs, who officers , refused to present his identification and . On July 12, Combs was ; a third charge of obstructing an officer was thrown out on the first day of the two-day trial.

"We start real small, speak softly and carry a big stick," said Jason Harrison, a North Branch resident who was also in attendance on Monday. "First, just send an e-mail or a letter to the City Council or the Mayor and explain what MCL 123.1102 actually says."

After holding a meeting on the south end of Shain Park on Monday, the group planned to walk over to the fountain area of the park with weapons in tow. Many of the men, who said they carry their guns for safety purposes, expected weird looks from those who saw them.

Adrienne Ruby-Fink, a bystander who carries a gun herself, explained that she is in support of the right to bear arms except in certain circumstances.

"I am pro-concealed weapon permit, but I think carrying rifles openly in a downtown area with kids around is just ridiculous," Ruby-Fink said. "But, I do feel it's our right as American citizens to be able to protect ourselves."

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M&P9 Pro August 2, 2012 at 06:20 am
He ran 8000 miles in four years of high school. And it sounds to me the kid is pretty smart to know more about the laws then police. Which they had 5 years at Farris State to help them become police. My guess is his grades are just fine.
Kenneth Herman August 2, 2012 at 06:52 am
Attention is not sought after generally with Open Carriers. A group of people open carrying in one place is no different than a group of car enthusiasts meeting in one place. They gather around a common interest and talk.
As far as offending people; People get offended no matter what over many things. If one is easily offended they should never leave their home or turn on their television. To such a person I would say "Too bad if my patriotism offends you, your lack of spine offends me."
Danny Griffin August 2, 2012 at 07:33 am
> your lack of spine offends me
Well said, sir!
JH August 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm
DanM - according to the articles, and Sean's posts on the open carry forum, he had to pick the rifle up in the morning and then the group met in the park the following evening.
Kenneth & Danny - attitudes like your two are the reason the majority of gun owners, including CPL holders, don't support open carry. I support the right, but I do not support the "IN YOUR FACE, IT'S LEGAL!!!" attitude displayed during these "events".
Bob Dobalita August 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Hey Adam,
I get what you're saying.... You would probably agree that more people should have CPLs and take responsibility for protecting themselves, correct? One good thing about open carry of a pistol is you get a chance to talk to people and promote safe carry of self defense weapons as well as provide an example of a normal person going about their normal business while armed. If you CC you would never be able to demonstrate to the masses that it is OK to carry. It is OK to be prepared. It is NORMAL to want to protect yourself and your familly. I encourage people to get a retention holster and try open carry. It is a GOOD thing to show the community that people carry and bring carrying out of the closet and into the open. I don't believe I would open carry a long gun outside of a parade or special function, however, I fully support other's rights to do something that is legal as well as constitutionally protected. I absolutely do open carry fairly regularly and I of course support people's right to openly carry handguns.
MikeN August 2, 2012 at 01:23 pm
The framers also didn't count blacks or women as human beings --- times change, we adapt, interpret, and it's clear we as a country consider this a living document. There is no way they could have concieved back then of the mass killing devices we have today. We've put many reasonable restritcions and limits on the first amendment --- statements that are uttered to provoke violence or incite illegal action or obscenity are not protected for example. Why can't we put reasonable restrictions on the 2nd amendment?
JH August 2, 2012 at 01:37 pm
I'd say the second amendment is already restricted more than the first... google "westboro baptist church" for an example.
Also, nobody had any doubt about them being human, they just didn't think they should be able to vote - which was common practice in Europe as well.
CC August 2, 2012 at 01:40 pm
More fun with guns! Sure someone is dead, but at least his best friend who killed him got to exercise his right to bear arms. HOORAY FOR GUNS!
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19174197/detroit-soldier-shot-and-killed-by-best-friend-in-alaska
CC August 2, 2012 at 01:47 pm
I would guess this soldier was as well trained as anyone on firearm safety. I am sure up until this point, he was considered a "responsible gun owner". This is the problem...people are only responsible with guns until they aren't.
How many people will have to die before people start to reconsider how safe we think they are with the current gun laws as they are?
DanM August 2, 2012 at 02:39 pm
"people are only responsible with guns until they aren't."
--CC People are only responsible with alcohol, prescription drugs, cars, knives, baseball bats, and access to their swimming pools until they aren't, also. Those are just a few more examples of things which badly hurt or kill a lot of people every year, some even more so than guns. Do you want to live in a country in which every adult has liberty by default, and it is taken away when misused, or do you want to live in a country in which every adult is assumed to be a criminal-in-waiting until proven otherwise, if ever?
DanM August 2, 2012 at 02:43 pm
With more than 20,000 gun laws on the books, the situation is beyond "reasonable restrictions" well into "infringements".
Jeff August 2, 2012 at 04:43 pm
Can someone who possesses some degree of logic explain this to me.
GREAT BRITAIN has always maintained a very strict gun control law among it's population. "Deaths by guns" per capita ALWAYS are the lowest in the world, year after year? Coincidence? I think not!!!
Danny Griffin August 2, 2012 at 09:04 pm
But their violent crime rate is three times HIGHER than the US (and Scotland's is six times higher), Homicides make the news, but they are a statistical blip on the radar compared to other violent crime.
M&P9 Pro August 2, 2012 at 09:51 pm
You are right CC. The military shouldn't have guns either. They might shoot someone. Btw, One bad apple in the orchard, doesn't mean you should shut the whole orchard down.
M&P9 Pro August 2, 2012 at 09:52 pm
They also had a resent school shooting. But, they don't allow guns! How could this have happened?????
Sam Adams August 3, 2012 at 12:42 am
Deaths, are deaths........check that out. Knifes are a choice of killing & bombs. Let's not forget the ol' baseball bat or poison. Basically, if you want to kill someone, you can find a way. So......I will leave you with that thought.
DanM August 3, 2012 at 01:12 pm
"GREAT BRITAIN has always maintained a very strict gun control law among it's population. 'Deaths by guns' per capita ALWAYS are the lowest in the world, year after year?"
--Jeff The UK's rate of all violent crime, and the deaths and great bodily harm from that, is far higher than the United States'. Also, their rate of homicides in which a gun is used is NOT the lowest in the world. Both of those facts prove that strict gun-control does not, and will never, really lower the perpetration of violence, and unjustified homicide in particular.
J Cas August 3, 2012 at 02:06 pm
CC, you won't bring your kids around Birmingham because of an open carry demonstration but you feel comfortable with them surrounded by the bars in the town? More people are killed every year in driving accidents, a large portion of those due to drug and alcohol use behind the wheel. I guess I'm a little shocked at how you can find a town filled with bars, some of which that have had issues with the law, perfectly acceptable yet one or two demonstrations with open carry and you'll write the city off as a danger to you and your family.
J Cas August 3, 2012 at 02:13 pm
Yolonda, I don't think you get the purpose of carrying a gun. Please take a proper course in gun safety and use and pay attention when they talk about the legality of using guns for self defense vs as a theft deterant. You may retain your Macbook but the police will have reason to charge you for unlawful use of a firearm.
JH August 3, 2012 at 02:21 pm
Adam, I agree completely. I actually live in Royal Oak but my wife and I frequently visit Birmingham's downtown as we prefer the more mature feel of it versus our own downtown. I have a CPL and support the right to carry concealed, as well as the right to open carry. That said, if I saw a group of people trying to make a point by carrying rifles around the middle of downtown, I would leave. There are plenty of other places to take our business and enjoy our day without the disruption this kind of event causes.
I believe we have the right to carry, but it is completely inappropriate to carry a rifle around downtown.
Jeff August 4, 2012 at 10:02 pm
Seriously, you are going to compare "violent crimes" to "homicides" as an argument? That's like comparing a cut to an amputation. Get real! We are talking about deaths by guns; DON'T try to shift the focus. So typical...
R Jeppostol August 5, 2012 at 02:35 am
I'm all for open carry, but please cite sources.
DanM August 5, 2012 at 01:43 pm
Unjustified homicide is a subset of violent crime, not separate from it. I'm widening the perspective for a more honest view of the UK's problems, which are actually far greater than the US's. The many victims of violent crimes and their families, especially those victims who suffer devastating body or brain injuries, would disagree with your trivialization of what they suffer, if it wasn't an unjustified homicide they suffer from.
Also, the article is about law-abiding gun owners supporting one of their own wrongfully arrested and wrongfully prosecuted, and that person resuming exercising his rights in a lawful and peaceable manner. So, if you want to find the person shifting the focus, you need only look into a mirror. That IS typical of gun-control advocate tactics. Shift the conversation away from law-abiding gun owners to criminals or gun crime.
DanM August 5, 2012 at 01:56 pm
"please cite sources"
--R Jeppostol The United Nations, European Union, FBI, and other government sources that I pay attention to on this subject don't do these statistical comparisons at frequent intervals. So if I pass along the latest they have and it's a couple to a few years old, you and others will accept it, right? You and others won't then say, "Oh, that's outdated." . . . I can be assured of that?
R Jeppostol August 5, 2012 at 02:44 pm
"So if I pass along the latest they have and it's a couple to a few years old, you and others will accept it, right? You and others won't then say, "Oh, that's outdated." . . . I can be assured of that?"
--DanM Wouldn't you say a slightly dated source is better than no source at all?
DanM August 5, 2012 at 06:24 pm
"Wouldn't you say a slightly dated source is better than no source at all?"
--R Jeppostol Of course, that makes sense. But my question is not will I be sensible, but will you and others be sensible and not say, "Oh, that data is old." Do you pledge to accept the most recent data that is out there and that I will pass along? Will others, such as "Jeff" and "CC" (to name a couple of gun-control advocates here), pledge to accept the data? It is out there, and you can find the links to government sources rather easily, but I can present it here if it's not going to be a waste of time with you, Jeff, and CC.
Danny Griffin August 5, 2012 at 08:56 pm
> I'm all for open carry, but please cite sources.
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/statistics/data.html
Joe Blowski August 6, 2012 at 06:21 pm
The long list of comments here is interesting - here are a couple of mine.
The comments of readers and residents BELIEFS have nothing to do with my RIGHTS. Common sense was lacking on both sides. Just because a right exists it is not diminished in any fashion by an individual CHOOSING not to exercise it. Conversely, overly aggressive and ill informed police officers were just as responsible for creating this situation than the now acquitted former defendant. I understand the individual is only 18 and precluded from carrying a handgun - but- IF your state has adequate CPL/CCW laws open carry is unnecessary. I don't want to make a "statement" - I want to go about my business unobstructed by the criminals and by the authorities. The suburban soccer mom is missing a huge opportunity to teach her children a lesson about society - just because YOU perceive an inanimate object as having an agenda, a personality towards good or evil does not make it so. There is a difference between teaching fear and teaching respect. Do you teach your children to FEAR cars or traffic? This is a much broader issue than just guns in public - its a constitutional issue and a tolerance issue and frankly the public fails miserably. They're about a million times more tolerant of LGBT rights and a naked gay pride parade than they are of someone exercising an ENUMERATED court challenged amendment in the Bill of Rights. THAT my dear readers is the ultimate of hypocritical intolerance.
R Jeppostol August 20, 2012 at 01:50 pm
Saw this article in the Eccentric:
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20120819/NEWS02/208190370/Birmingham-officials-seek-ban-guns-public-buildings?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Birmingham|p Was wondering if MCL# 123.1102 would prevent them from doing this or no, because they're attempting to amend it at the state level.
DanM September 11, 2012 at 05:49 pm
MCL 123.1102 prevents local units of government from unilaterally banning firearms, but it does not prevent the private citizens who work in those governments from asking the state legislature to change state law to do so.
They have as much of a free speech right to ask for that as we who support individual rights have to oppose, and ultimately defeat, them.
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