VERIFIED: Group Has More Than Enough Signatures to Trigger Recall Election of Troy Mayor

The Oakland County Elections Division finished verifying the signatures by the political action group Recall Janice Daniels late Thursday afternoon.

The Oakland County Elections Division has finished verifying the by the political action group Recall Jancie Daniels to recall embattled Troy Mayor Janice Daniels.

"In accordance with MCL 168.961(4), our office has concluded our review of the recall petitions demanding your recall from the office of Mayor – City of Troy, County of Oakland," Elections Director Joe Rozell wrote in a letter to Daniels on Thursday. "We have determined that the petitions contain 8,882 valid signatures from City of Troy electors which exceed the requirement of 7,985."

Daniels may challenge the signatures until 4:30 p.m. on July 12. If her challenges are unsuccessful, she will face a recall election on Nov. 6.

"We're checking the petitions," Daniels confirmed Thursday afternoon, though she declined further comment on the issue.

"The verification done by the Elections Division is very much in line with what our internal verification process found," said Matt Binkowski, co-founder of Recall Janice Daniels. "We thought we had about 400 or so invalid signatures, and it looks like we were not too far off that mark."

Binkowski invited Daniels to "go through the petitions with a fine-toothed comb," saying, "We don't think any challenge by Mayor Daniels would be able to overcome the 900 excess signatures that we have."

He added, "We're happy that this process can now move forward."

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Daniels first came under fire in December for her  and has remained the center of controversy after  (a  was later approved), telling the  Gay-Straight Alliance she would bring in an expert to tell them  and writing a lengthy position paper some viewed as .

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Dale Murrish June 29, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Jeff, do you think a deceitful recall petition is the “ends justifying the means”? http://troy.patch.com/blog_posts/election-nullifiers-to-circulate-misleading-petition If you add together people like Mack who voted for Robin Beltramini and think regular elections and respect for the Constitution are more important than political views to the people who quietly support the good things the mayor has done, she will keep her seat. Mayor Daniels was attacked from the day of her taking office because she is a conservative woman. To say no one knew this before the election is laughable when she campaigned on conservative principles like opposition to the transit center. All of a sudden people are saying it now: “she has a long history of criticizing the council, Tea Party activist, etc.” And what’s wrong with the Tea Party? Their big issue is not passing a mountain of debt on to the next generation, something we all should agree with.
Linda June 29, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Dale, Where have you been? We have been saying that "she has a long history of criticizing the council," etc. for years. As a Republican, I feel she is a black stain not only on the city, but the party as well. The Tea Party has its pros and cons, but from personal experience, I can say that the Troy Tea Party falls into the same category as Janice. This has nothing to do with her being a conservative. Too many posters insists on reducing this to a partisan issue. It is not!!!! It is about her personal actions and the consequences of such. As far as a misleading petition - do you not realize that the Oakland County Election Commission approved the petition for "clarity?" clarity |ˈklaritē| noun the quality of being clear, in particular: • the quality of coherence and intelligibility What don't you understand?
indebttoo June 29, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Thrilled too! Can't wait to vote her recall!!! Can we send her to Alaska or Texas?
Daffy Noodnicks June 29, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Dale: On your opinion the the petition was deceitful: Do you honestly believe the approximately 8,800 voters who signed the petition were deceived into signing it? I think people knew very well why they were signing. Do you resepect the constitutional right of citizens to recall? Or do you only value the parts of the constitution you find politically expedient? I believe some "conservative" people are supporting the recall. It clearly cuts across ideological and political lines. I believe the issue about the mayors tea party affiliation is that she did not make it plain during the campaign. It was certainly not in anything she mailed to my house. Why do you suppose that is? She also did not make clear she would use the position as mayor to espouse ignorance and intolerance about gay people.
CC June 29, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Dale - Come on...you are just being ridiculous. The petition is not deceitful. Those are all facts on that petition. You may not agree with them being a reason for recall, but they are facts. Your previous blog post that you love to link to is riddled with inaccuracies, which you acknowledge in the comments section. So who is the one trying to mislead people? What does respecting the constitution have to do with the recall? A recall is a legal right that was put into place by our government, and therefore protected by our constitution. But the recall does have to do with respect in another way...it is about a lack of respect the mayor has for city workers, anyone outside her "core constituency", and the general will of the people (80% of emails to her were in support of the transit center). I have no issue with conservative views, but I do have an issue with extreme views. The Mayor campaigned as an Independent who is business-friendly, and she has proven she is the exact opposites of those. This recall is not a recall of conservative viewpoints (no matter how many times you claim it is)...it is a recall against one person who has proven to not have the integrity, class, or competency to represent this city.
cookiepro2 June 29, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Peoplearenuts and Mack's idea that "you need to have voted in the mayoral election last ime to be able to vote in the recall election" seemed at first impression, a horrible idea, like it would be violating a Constitutional right, so I looked it up and found this from www.usconstitution.net: "The Constitution contains many phrases, clauses, and amendments detailing ways people cannot be denied the right to vote. You cannot deny the right to vote because of race or gender. Citizens of Washington DC can vote for President; 18-year-olds can vote; you can vote even if you fail to pay a poll tax.... Note that in all of this, though, the Constitution never explicitly ensures the right to vote". So..it is conceivable that Michigan could legislate such a rule restricting voting in recall elections, but watch out, you're setting the stage for a new Constitiutional amendment protecting the right to vote regardless of previous participation in voting. Besides, can you imagine the uproar on that first Tuesday in November, when some people would be given certain ballots (which would contain the recall question) and others not?
CC June 29, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Let's stay with the idea of misleading the general public, since that is a concern Dale has. Let's look at how Daniels represented herself during her campaign: - A political novice: it is correct that she had never held an office before being Mayor, but she was a leader of both TCU and The Troy Tea Party...of course you never saw this information in her campaign material. Why is that? - An independent: uhhhh, you lead the Troy Tea Party, but you are independent...come on!!!! - Business-friendly: I am not sure what businesses she is referring to, but she has done a fantastic job of alienating herself from the Chamber of Commerce, which has most major companies (and taxpayers) that are in Troy. And so on and so on and so on...
Cathy Fucinari June 29, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Dale, Because you continue to say so, and post the link to YOUR blog (!) repeatedly, does not make it true. 8,882 voters in troy think you are wrong. FYI, I respect the constitution and understand it applies to ALL people, not just the ones I like. You have the right to repeat misinformation, and I will not stand in your way. I have the right to correct your misinformation. In addition, the mountain of debt you refer to is not a city issue. Period. The mayor's office should be concerned with city issues. Period. When you do not have a logical response to someone else's opinion, you bring up issues that do not pertain to this discussion. She was attacked from Day 1 of taking office because that was when she dropped the veil and revealed who she really was. I thank God that people woke up. She will NOT keep her seat.
GambitofTroy June 29, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Nobody signed the petition because they read the petition language. I would wager 98% of the people when asked if they would like to sign knew in a microsecond whether or not they wanted the mayor gone as well as why.
cookiepro2 June 29, 2012 at 07:22 PM
I did vote in the last mayoral election so would be among the ones allowed to vote in this coming election if Peoplearenuts and Mack had their way. But what I regret is like Chris P, I was too busy in my own life leading up to the election, and thus other than my vote didn't contribute time or money to non-Tea Party candidates. Not so this election. Janice Daniels has shown me the folly of passivity in allowing the ultra-right wing to take control of our city, and by extension, the harmful effects if they take over our county and our district. It is crucial that we get qualified and smart people in office, not those who spout ideology as a substitute for thinking and coming up with constructive solutions.
Cathy Fucinari June 29, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Dale: You can fool some of the people all the time. You can fool all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all the time. We've reached the end of the foolishness.
Eva June 30, 2012 at 04:33 AM
Council has 120 days to find a new city manager? Any way in the charter to grant an extension beyond the November election? Too bad Janice will still have a hand in the selection process. She showed such intellect in her harangue of the previous city manager.
Jeff June 30, 2012 at 04:41 AM
Dale....you've obviously learned from the best - Janice Daniels playbook - to deceive and deflect. As usual, your comments are simply opinions, never supported by facts. You fit in very well with Daniels' strategy...
Linda June 30, 2012 at 02:45 PM
"A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion." Chinese proverb "A wise man also does his homework to get the facts." Linda
kidcat24 July 02, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Come on does anyone have any background information on Jan Daniels? I looked on the internet. Nothing. What is her educational background?
kidcat24 July 02, 2012 at 03:11 PM
She is a mayor of a city and doesn't even have a bio on their website.
indebttoo July 02, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Perhaps any lack of bio means she's just a nightmare & doesn't really exist?! Hopefully by Nov. her "non-existence" as Troy mayor will become a reality.
Cathy Fucinari July 02, 2012 at 04:15 PM
She has a general business degree from Oakland within the last 10 years (I don't recall exactly when). I verified through the school that she did indeed graduate The things that she says indicates very limited business knowledge or financial knowledge for that matter. However, the school did not indicate where she graduated iin her class, She's been divorced twice (so much for family values and the sacred institution), and she has a realty license, but according to Century 21, doesn't work much. She doesn't have any record of community service. Perhaps she gets paid to speak at Tea Party events. Despite the fact that she claimed, prior to her election, that the council and mayor should refuse to take their salary while the city was in dire straights to keep the library open, I don't think she makes enough money as mayor to support herself. I also, from my talks with Century 21, don't think she makes enough money there either. I think one thing she should definitely do is be transparent about where her money comes from. She should assure the community that she has civic and business experience sufficient to at least understand the budget (she didn't show it during the budget process).
Linda July 02, 2012 at 04:20 PM
I think she works at a mortgage company. Remember her comment on the radio about the mortgage she wrote for someone "she suspected was gay?"
Glenn July 02, 2012 at 05:27 PM
According to her contact info on zoominfo.com, Janice Daniels works as a mortgage broker at Ameriplus Mortgage Corp on 2050 Livernois Rd, #E in Troy. Their phone number is 248-740-2323 if you wish to confirm this for yourself as I have. We just remortgaged our house and I can assure you we never considered using Ameriplus once we found out that they employ Janice Daniels.
Cathy Fucinari July 02, 2012 at 06:40 PM
My husband and I will be downsizing, due to the fact that our children have grown and moved on with their lives. We will not use Century 21 either.
Dale Murrish July 03, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Some new thoughts on the recall at http://troy.patch.com/blog_posts/questions-for-matt-binkowski-on-troy-mayoral-recall if you haven't seen them yet...
Total Health July 08, 2012 at 01:29 PM
I dont remember anyone recalling Matt Pryor. He treated the residents terribly. I watched many a council meeting where he belittled and talked nasty to residents that would make public comments. Louise Shilling made mistakes too, but we didn't recall her. Jeannie Stein tried to put in a great big fat pension for her self in a closed session. Matt, Louise and Jeannie made mistakes, but we didnt recall any of them. This is Janice's first time in office and I think we need to give her some time.
Jeff July 08, 2012 at 02:30 PM
The difference - None of the previous mayors have embarrassed and shamed this city by statements they have made, or continuously demonstrated very poor judgement while in office. More importantly, once Daniels lied to her constituents (as she has on numerous occasions), she has voided the trust of the people of Troy.
Daffy Noodnicks July 08, 2012 at 02:43 PM
She just made more offensive comments the other day on the public airwaves. She clearly hasn't learned anything on the job and does not seem to be interested in doing so. It has been time enough.
Total Health July 08, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Jeff, Many mayors make mistakes, and we need to let them get used to their new position. I'm very neutral about her, but i think we should give her a chance . I never heard about any lies she made, but I can tell you that the people on council that forced the vote for the library millage should be recalled - they all knew about the 10 mills of excess reserves and never told the voters. why not start a recall for all them as well because they withheld information pertinent to a "special election" and with holding information is the same as lying.
Cathy Fucinari July 08, 2012 at 03:05 PM
While she was running for office, IN PRINT, she claimed to be independent. However, she founded the tea party in Troy. That is not independent, and I consider that to be a lie. I have a bigger problem with her bigotry. I have lived here for 35 years, and have always been proud of the diversity of our community. Today in the paper, the president of the Detroit NCAA was quoted as saying "Can a white mayor win in Detroit? That's an absurd question. The real question is 'Can a black man be elected mayor in Dearborn or Troy or the governor of the state?'" After 35 years of pride, I am now ashamed of the reputation Troy has developed as a result of the vitriol spewed by Janice and her posse.
Sharon July 08, 2012 at 03:48 PM
No one succeeded in recalling Schilling, but the attempt was made because she voted to allow Christians AND people of other religions to take part in the National Day of Prayer ceremony at the City Hall. That recall was against her and someone else. It failed. So that argument doesn't wash. The problem with this recall campaign, to JD supporters, is that it has so far succeeded. And it's not only because the opposition is smart, it's because the people of Troy really support the recall. She is that bad.
Sharon July 08, 2012 at 03:52 PM
She was lying for two years running up to taking office and she hasn't stopped since. On the radio two weeks ago she said she told people at a BUSINESS MEETING that doctors could say the so-called "homosexual lifestyle" (which doesn't exist-it's a stereotype) was dangerous. Nope. She told high school kids and a monogamous gay woman at her public office hours that she could bring psychiatrists in to tell the kids that the lifestyle was dangerous. What's the difference, in the true version, the kids were working on a suicide prevention meeting for gay kids. JD's answer? Have psychiatrists tell the kids they are nuts and shove them over the edge. Seriously, she is dangerous.
John David July 08, 2012 at 08:04 PM
"excess reserves" are a red herring. If there were excess reserves, would not Tietz and Henderson voted with Daniels to open the library 7 days a week when the vote first came up around January? They didn't. If there were "excess reserves" would not Daniels have brought the issue of opening the library 7 days a week come up again during the review of the budget? The council didn't because there is no "excess reserve". The city management, under Szerlag, was conservative and realistic. Projections for future revenue under existing millage rates and negotiated payroll reductions still show the city needs to be careful or it will be in a deficit in 2017. If this were not true, would Tietz and Henderson have approved the budget? However, if you reallyt want to recall the council members who remain from the previous council, Nicholas Cherasaro had three approved recall petitions for Slater, McGinnis and Fleming you could have signed, if he was serious about following through. Daniels should have been ready to serve without the mistakes she made and continues to make before she decided to run for mayor.


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